Erik Satie

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snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on May 14, 2012, 06:30:09 AM
(I like de Leeuw, too, only Luke is far more eloquent here.

drooling :P

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on May 14, 2012, 06:30:09 AM
(I like de Leeuw, too, only Luke is far more eloquent here.

Ditto

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

DieNacht

Same here; De Leeuw is unique and great in Satie. Nobody plays the works like him, an ultra-personal performance style probably very far from Satie´s own days, but extremely interesting and thoughtful.

Ten thumbs

Quote from: Muzition on September 11, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
I find an odd thing about Satie and Debussy.  People tend to like either one composer or the other, but not both.  People tend to be a "Satie person" or a "Debussy person."

Does anyone else seem to see this, or is it just my imagination?

Not sure about that. I like and play both, but then I'm also a Rebikov person.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

snyprrr

What about Takahashi on Denon? I know de Leeuw is unique, but Takahashi has an enormously packed 2cd set (with the awful cover) that also includes the 5 Nocturnes. Anyone have both?

bhodges

Satie-lovers, tomorrow (June 21) his Vexations (1883) will be performed by vibraphonists around the world, starting in Australia and ending in the western United States. Info here:

http://www.worldwidevexations.com/

(I hope to catch some of the 12 hours in New York, but the temperature is supposed to be close to 100°F, or 37°C.)

--Bruce

Karl Henning

Vexatious Vibraphones . . . they had to go there, didn't they?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on June 20, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
Vexatious Vibraphones . . . they had to go there, didn't they?

really!!


I just got de Leeuw, haven't listened. I'm going to need a hyperbaric chamber for this one, huh?

DieNacht

Perhaps inform your neighbours, in case you fall in a long-lasting trance  :).

snyprrr

Quote from: DieNacht on June 21, 2012, 08:03:54 AM
Perhaps inform your neighbours, in case you fall in a long-lasting trance  :).

Seriously... that's what I'm afraid of.

Valium. Check.

Bed. Check.

Ahhh,... I need a vacation, haha!! ;) 8)

I never usually leave new cds in the wrapper for longer than 20secs. I've had this a week, and I just haven't had the special time open up. I might have to leave it for an emergency. I can practically FEEL it coming through the wrapper,... it's The Spice! :o

George

Quote from: karlhenning on May 14, 2012, 06:30:09 AM
(I like de Leeuw, too, only Luke is far more eloquent here.

karl (and fans of de Leeuw) - which Satie recordings do you own (and enjoy) by de Leeuw? I understand he recorded Satie twice, in analog in 1977 and in digital in 1992 (in the box set posted directly above.) 
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: George on November 07, 2013, 05:36:30 PM
karl (and fans of de Leeuw) - which Satie recordings do you own (and enjoy) by de Leeuw? I understand he recorded Satie twice, in analog in 1977 and in digital in 1992 (in the box set posted directly above.)

I bought the single disc (digital) first and then bought the box (same performances) later when I decided I needed more de Leeuw. The Pièces froides in the box is from 1977.




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

George

"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

KevinP




Help me decide?

Saw the discussion a couple pages back about preferred orchestral Socrate, but for a general intro to his orchestral works, anyone want to recommend one over the other?

San Antone

Entr' acte

https://www.youtube.com/v/UnXdYxvBHf8

Entr'acte is a 1924 French short film directed by René Clair, which premiered as an entr'acte for the Ballets Suédois production Relâche at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées in Paris. Relâche is based on a book and with settings by Francis Picabia, produced by Rolf de Maré, and with choreography by Jean Börlin. The music for both the ballet and the film was composed by Erik Satie.

San Antone

Quote from: lukeottevanger on May 31, 2007, 02:25:26 PM
He is great, indeed, though more for what he opened up (not just to Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc and the Arceuil school but also, even, to John Cage, who he influenced deeply), than for his music. There are, probably, only a few really, truly strong pieces (Socrate, the Nocturnes, Sports et Divertissements, Pieces en forme de poire, and actually the famous earlier pieces too - Gymnopedies, Gnossiennes, Sarabandes). However, I wouldn't willingly exchange these ones for anything.

He's a fascinating figure, much misunderstood, and admirable on a personal level in so many ways (witness his going back to the conservatoire in all humility at a late age; in general witness the strength of character that enabled him to live the life he did, isolated in Arceuil). Also among the most anecdote-ridden of composers! Get hold of Rollo Myers' old biography. It's the only one I've read, it may be superceded by later ones, but it comes from very close to the source and feels genuine and passionate.

The Sarabandes (his first serious works) I think are really fantastic and unfortunately are mostly overshadowed by the Gymnopedies and/or Gnossiennes.

I am another fan of de Leeuw.   I used to only listen to Ciccolini until I went back after hearing all of the recordings by de Leeuw and couldn't accept Ciccolini any more.

snyprrr

I have arrived at Orchestral Satie, somewhere I believe I've never gone due to my idea that it was the furthest thing from my beloved 'Gymnopedie'. Well, I'm at the station now, and need a lift into town...

Christo

#117
Talking about orchestral Satie: this weekend I bought this great 13-cd box at JPC.de for just under 10 euros, with vintage recordings of Satie and around, with Parade, Relâche and a handful of orchestral versions of the Gymnopedies:
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Monsieur Croche

Some of the best and most musically intelligent performances (which renders them more, not less, attractive) of the orchestral music can be found here -- a vintage recording (with find sound) priced from very little money to rather ridiculous money.

~ I'm all for personal expression; it just has to express something to me. ~

snyprrr

Quote from: Monsieur Croche on October 20, 2017, 04:16:00 AM
Some of the best and most musically intelligent performances (which renders them more, not less, attractive) of the orchestral music can be found here -- a vintage recording (with find sound) priced from very little money to rather ridiculous money.

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I forgot I was embarking on a Satie WorldTour2017...