Past Purchases (CLOSED)

[Willoughby earl of Itacarius]

I must admit to an impulse purchase.....   (Shocking, shocking, I know!)

I saw this on Amazon for under $3 in good condition and decided to jump on it:

That's  a very fine disc!

[Geo Dude]

That's  a very fine disc!

In that case, I hope others jump on it!  There are still copies around on the MP going for pretty cheap.

[Coopmv]

Note that it is the identical recording as this one (re-release after the ensemble switched label):



Q

Looks like I am now stuck with 2 identical copies since I already have the version on Zig Zag ...     

This is a totally unexpected duplicate due to both a label switch and CD cover switch.  I do have a fair number of duplicates, something that is quite unavoidable when any collection has a few thousand CD's (mine should go over 5000 by end of this year) plus another 4000+ LP's and tapes.  I do not count my non-classical but they are in the hundreds ...

[Coopmv]

I must admit to an impulse purchase.....   (Shocking, shocking, I know!)

I saw this on Amazon for under $3 in good condition and decided to jump on it:

Hopefully, the condition is as good as you had expected.  You can never tell with some Amazon sellers ...

[Que]

Looks like I am now stuck with 2 identical copies since I already have the version on Zig Zag ...     

This is a totally unexpected duplicate due to both a label switch and CD cover switch.  I do have a fair number of duplicates, something that is quite unavoidable when any collection has a few thousand CD's (mine should go over 5000 by end of this year) plus another 4000+ LP's and tapes.  I do not count my non-classical but they are in the hundreds ...

Cancel the order, if you can. If it's any consolation - they nearly fooled me to... But two consecutive recordings of rare repertoire that close in time was a bit too much coincidence for me, so I looked into further. The release on Aeon reportedly misses the lavish booklets that came with the original Zig-Zag release.

Q

[Geo Dude]

Hopefully, the condition is as good as you had expected.  You can never tell with some Amazon sellers ...

I've been there before, but don't worry.  The seller gave excruciatingly detailed notes on the condition of the CD, liner notes, and case and I tend to keep a copy of those around just in case.

[Coopmv]

Cancel the order, if you can. If it's any consolation - they nearly fooled me to... But two consecutive recordings of rare repertoire that close in time was a bit too much coincidence for me, so I looked into further. The release on Aeon reportedly misses the lavish booklets that came with the original Zig-Zag release.

Q

Q,   Perhaps the European copyright law somehow permits this, assuming Aeon and Zig Zag are two different companies.  Unfortunately, the seller has already shipped the copy and it is just not economical to return it.  I probably should sell off all my duplicates one of these days ...

[kishnevi]

Landed today--the first one is currently playing, and  is first rate.
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I already have the other two installments of this series.

And while getting the images off Amazon, I discovered this will be released (in the US at any rate) next May, if it's of interest to anyone.

[Coopmv]

Landed today--the first one is currently playing, and  is first rate.
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I already have the other two installments of this series.

And while getting the images off Amazon, I discovered this will be released (in the US at any rate) next May, if it's of interest to anyone.

Nice haul ...

[Coopmv]

For this evening

My order from across the pond ...







from Amazon US MP ...

[Que]

Q,   Perhaps the European copyright law somehow permits this, assuming Aeon and Zig Zag are two different companies.  Unfortunately, the seller has already shipped the copy and it is just not economical to return it.  I probably should sell off all my duplicates one of these days ...

I see it more and more that performers take their recordings with them when switching labels: Savall is reissuing his old recordings on Naïve/Astrée, Manfred Huss took his Koch Schwann recordings to BIS, etc. Maybe they have put a provision in their contracts? I favour the idea - in this way performers can take proper care of the their recorded legacy. (This particular Zig Zag issue had gone OOP, for instance).

The good news for us is that it improves chances that recordings will stay in circulation instead gathering dust in the archives because some brainless label executive has "moved on" to the next folly of the day....

Q

[Que]

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I found that US Amazon's prices on Plectra are hard to beat. Price of this set went down back to an attractive $25. So I decide to treat myself for the new year, before the price goes up again!

Q

[Coopmv]

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I found that US Amazon's prices on Plectra are hard to beat. Price of this set went down back to an attractive $25. So I decide to treat myself for the new year, before the price goes up again!

Q

Good choice, I bought this set a few months ago.  Prices for this label are quite good on Amazon.  IIRC, when I bought these Plectra recordings (this and a few others), Amazon was the only merchant listing them on the Amazon US website ...

[Coopmv]

I see it more and more that performers take their recordings with them when switching labels: Savall is reissuing his old recordings on Naïve/Astrée, Manfred Huss took his Koch Schwann recordings to BIS, etc. Maybe they have put a provision in their contracts? I favour the idea - in this way performers can take proper care of the their recorded legacy. (This particular Zig Zag issue had gone OOP, for instance).

The good news for us is that it improves chances that recordings will stay in circulation instead gathering dust in the archives because some brainless label executive has "moved on" to the next folly of the day....

Q

For Jordi Savall, that should be easy since Alia Vox was founded by him.  Is Alia Vox out of business?

[kishnevi]

For Jordi Savall, that should be easy since Alia Vox was founded by him.  Is Alia Vox out of business?

With Savall at least isn't it the reverse--that is, he's releasing his old Astree recordings (at least some of them remastered) on Alia Vox?  At least, that's what it says in the book accompanying the Alia Vox issue of the Brandenburg Concertos--the general rubric for these is Alia Vox Heritage, to set them apart from truly new recordings issued on Alia Vox, I presume.

The only actual reissue on Naive is the Farnace they took over for their Vivaldi Edition;  the new recording of Teuzzone is a truly new recording. 

On the more general topic, I think that at least some of the smaller labels are working together to market and distribute their offerings.  For instance, at the Harmonia Mundi webstore you can (at least in the US) purchase not only HM releases, but also recordings by LSO Live, Onyx, the San Francisco Orchestra's self label, and several other smaller labels, both classical and non classical (jazz and world music).

[Coopmv]

On the more general topic, I think that at least some of the smaller labels are working together to market and distribute their offerings.  For instance, at the Harmonia Mundi webstore you can (at least in the US) purchase not only HM releases, but also recordings by LSO Live, Onyx, the San Francisco Orchestra's self label, and several other smaller labels, both classical and non classical (jazz and world music).

But isn't this just rehashing the old music club concept that went back to the mid to late 1980's or perhaps even earlier?  IIRC, if one joined BMG Music Club those days, he could select some DG or Philips offering even though BMG then was primarily RCA?

[jlaurson]

On the more general topic, I think that at least some of the smaller labels are working together to market and distribute their offerings.  For instance, at the Harmonia Mundi webstore you can (at least in the US) purchase not only HM releases, but also recordings by LSO Live, Onyx, the San Francisco Orchestra's self label, and several other smaller labels, both classical and non classical (jazz and world music).

One must distinguish between a LABEL and a DISTRIBUTOR. It gets confusing, when some labels distribute themselves (and only themselves), and other labels are also major distributors.

Naxos, for example, has become the major distributor in most markets. Not in Austria, though, where Naxos is distributed by Gramola, which is also a label (which is in return distributed by Naxos in most, but not all, markets... and was with Allegro [a distributor-only], before that.)

Harmonia Mundi is also a very considerable distributor in the US and France, for example (where it distributes SFSO Media, Hyperion, itself, Onyx, LSO Live, et al), but it is being distributed by CODAEX in Germany.

Universal distributes itself and ECM in some markets... EMI distributes itself. Warner used to, but is now distributed by Naxos. Qualiton is a major US distributor (e.g. BIS). Koch used to be a label and a distributor... but has become virtually meaningless as the former and not very important as the latter (for classical). 

Etc. etc.

[Brian]

To pile on to jlaurson's excellent post, the Naxos digital distribution cuts across boundaries; for instance, Naxos Music Library (streaming) and Classicsonline (mp3) offer LSO Live and Onyx, which are distributed by harmonia mundi in many places, while harmonia mundi and Hyperion are not tied to Naxos at all; Qualiton distributes BIS (closely tied to Naxos) and Supraphon (no ties to Naxos); etc. Nearly all of these labels (not Hyperion) are also marketed through sites like eMusic.

[jlaurson]

To pile on to jlaurson's excellent post, the Naxos digital distribution cuts across boundaries; for instance, Naxos Music Library (streaming) and Classicsonline (mp3) offer LSO Live and Onyx, which are distributed by harmonia mundi in many places, while harmonia mundi and Hyperion are not tied to Naxos at all; Qualiton distributes BIS (closely tied to Naxos) and Supraphon (no ties to Naxos); etc. Nearly all of these labels (not Hyperion) are also marketed through sites like eMusic.

Ah, indeed: Digital Rights Management is yet another field (and can of worms) and only partially related to distribution. (I.e. Naxos won't distribute a label if it can't also do their DRM. 

The Naxos Music Library, incidentally, contains the EMI catalog. Boundaries exist in some ways, though: if you have an American NML-account, you can't listen to any historical recordings, no matter what country you are in. (Because of different copyrights situations in the US vs. EU et al.) Similarly, you can't establish a Spotify account from Germany, but you CAN listen and use a Spotify-account established in a different country. (Say, Norway.)

[Sergeant Rock]

Very divergent views on Kuijken's Haydn in the Haydn threads. Thought I'd take a listen.  Symphonies 99 "The Cat" and 100 "Military" arrived in today's mail.




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