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Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 15, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Berglund/COE                          7:54    6:09   4:10   10:04
Berglund/LPO                          8:47    6:19   3:52    10:46
Berglund/Bournemouth            9:33    6:23   4:04   11:31

Just for further comparison:

Berglund/Helsinki Phil             8:14    5:32   3:55    11:12

Interesting, Sarge that the only two on you chart where the Poco Vivace exceeds the four-minute are both Berlund.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

trung224

 The another one contain more modern music (at that time) like Sibelius, Höller, Hartmann, Stravinsky, R. Strauss but  very pricey :(

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Mirror Image on October 15, 2012, 08:00:15 AM
Very interesting timing comparsion there, Sarge. Thanks for taking the time to post this. Berglund's Helsinki performance is also on the slower side (in the last movement particularly everything else seems about right):

First movement - 8:14
Second movement - 5:31
Third movement - 3:55
Fourth movement - 11:11

Quote from: karlhenning on October 15, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
Just for further comparison:

Berglund/Helsinki Phil          8:14    5:32   3:55    11:12

Interesting, Sarge that the only two on you chart where the Poco Vivace exceeds the four-minute are both Berlund.


And Berglund is the only conductor to exceed the 11 minute mark in the last movement.

Thanks, guys. Berglund/Helsinki is one of the few cycles I don't own. I'll add those timings to my data base. I have to find my Rattle Sixth; it's around here somewhere, buried in one of my piles.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 15, 2012, 09:01:07 AM
Thanks, guys. Berglund/Helsinki is one of the few cycles I don't own. I'll add those timings to my data base. I have to find my Rattle Sixth; it's around here somewhere, buried in one of my piles.

Al vostro servizio:

C. Davis/BSO                7:57    4:34   3:45    8:32
Rattle/CBSO                    9:09    6:18   3:49    10:25
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller




I've been so impressed with Herreweghe's recordings so far (Weill, Berlioz, Bach, Bruckner) that I had to give this Pierrot lunaire a try. Not only my favorite Schoenberg piece, but one of my favorite pieces of music from any composer.

Karl Henning

I do call that a temptation, Greg.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller


Gold Knight

Just ordered from Amazon:

Carl Nielsen--The Complete Symphonies, performed by the Janacek Philharmonic Orchestra led by Theodore Kuchar. I already own--and enjoy--the Blomstedt and Danish Radio Symphony Orchestra Nielsen Cycle, but I wanted to hear another interpretation; for 15 dollars, what can I lose?

:o

Lilas Pastia

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 15, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
After a relatively fast COE Sixth, Berglund's final thoughts appear to lean back towards his first recorded Sixth, with the Bournemouth, and finding a middle ground. I prefer my Sixths swift (which is one reason I love Maazel/Vienna and Davis/Boston so much) but for something completely different, Berglund is interesting.

Davis/Boston                             7:51     4:30   3:45    8:21
Berglund/COE                          7:54    6:09   4:10   10:04
Bernstein/New York                    8:03    5:32   3:54    8:57
Järvi/Gothenburg                        8:05    6:02   3:44    9:15
Maazel/Vienna                           8:24    4:03   3:02     8:42
Davis/LSO (Live)                         8:27    4:50   3:41     8:49
Vänskä/Lahti                              8:28    6:29   3:23     8:19
Davis/LSO (RCA)                        8:36    4:40   3:36     9:03
Berglund/LPO                          8:47    6:19   3:52    10:46
Sanderling/Berlin RSO                9:02    7:02   3:25     9:50
Sarkari/Iceland                           9:10    6:59   3:40    10:33
Maazel/Pittsburgh                       9:20   5:22   3:28     9:11
Barbirolli/Hallé                            9:22    6:55   3:43     9:52
Askenazy/Philharmonia               9:23   5:42   3:54     9:17
Blomstedt/San Francisco            9:24    6:28   3:33   10:23
Segerstam/Helsinki                     9:27    6:08   3:57   10:39     
Berglund/Bournemouth            9:33    6:23   4:04   11:31
Rozhdestvensky/Moscow            9:51    4:46   3:51     9:24

No Karajan, Sarge? I'm not a fan of the EMI recording, but I cherish his DGG one.

Lilas Pastia

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 15, 2012, 07:24:56 AM
The Post and German Amazon are very efficient, of course. But the marketplace sellers I use are fast too. Today, for example, I ordered another Fey Haydn disc. I placed my order at 14:18. At 14:28 the seller sent a message saying it was in the mail. Ten minutes flat. A new record  ;D He always gets orders off within an hour (and they arrive early the next morning) but this time he really amazed me  8)

Sarge

He probably had it in his hands when your order came in. You probably amazed him! ;)

Scarpia

Quote from: André on October 15, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
No Karajan, Sarge? I'm not a fan of the EMI recording, but I cherish his DGG one.

Wow, I have the opposite reaction.  That S6 with the BPO is a voluptuous guilty pleasure (and there is also the mono S6 with the Philharmonia).

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on October 15, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
Al vostro servizio:

Rattle/CBSO                    9:09    6:18   3:49    10:25


Thanks, Karl. I can put my search off for another day now  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: André on October 15, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
No Karajan, Sarge? I'm not a fan of the EMI recording, but I cherish his DGG one.

I do own Karajan/DG, and the new Inkinen too. Overlooked both when I was making my list.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Lilas Pastia

Quote from: Scarpia on October 15, 2012, 01:54:41 PM
Wow, I have the opposite reaction.  That S6 with the BPO is a voluptuous guilty pleasure (and there is also the mono S6 with the Philharmonia).

It's a question of sound and playing. The DG is more translucent and luminous. Ant the playing slightly more alert. In the EMI version I find the tempi slightly glacial and the engineering somewhat nondescript. It doesn't have the colours of the older recording (Jesus-Christus Kirche?).

I have not heard the Philharmonia versions. Karajan was often maligned for indiscriminately recording the same repertoire over and over again. And yet his Sibelius recordings were not necessarily of the same works:

Philharmonia: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7
BPO DGG: 4, 5, 6, 7
BPO EMI: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6

Symphonies 4-6 seem to have been central to his repertoire. Nos 1, 2 and 7 came and went. He never recorded the 3rd :-\.

CriticalI

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 15, 2012, 07:53:46 AMDavis/Boston                             7:51     4:30   3:45    8:21
Berglund/COE                          7:54    6:09   4:10   10:04
Bernstein/New York                    8:03    5:32   3:54    8:57
Järvi/Gothenburg                        8:05    6:02   3:44    9:15
Maazel/Vienna                           8:24    4:03   3:02     8:42
Davis/LSO (Live)                         8:27    4:50   3:41     8:49
Vänskä/Lahti                              8:28    6:29   3:23     8:19
Davis/LSO (RCA)                        8:36    4:40   3:36     9:03
Berglund/LPO                          8:47    6:19   3:52    10:46
Sanderling/Berlin RSO                9:02    7:02   3:25     9:50
Sarkari/Iceland                           9:10    6:59   3:40    10:33
Maazel/Pittsburgh                       9:20   5:22   3:28     9:11
Barbirolli/Hallé                            9:22    6:55   3:43     9:52
Askenazy/Philharmonia               9:23   5:42   3:54     9:17
Blomstedt/San Francisco            9:24    6:28   3:33   10:23
Segerstam/Helsinki                     9:27    6:08   3:57   10:39     
Berglund/Bournemouth            9:33    6:23   4:04   11:31
Rozhdestvensky/Moscow            9:51    4:46   3:51     9:24

Karajan/Berlin (EMI)                   8:32    6:05   3:20    9:19


Daverz

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Quote from: CriticalI on October 15, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
Karajan/Berlin (EMI)                   8:32    6:05   3:20    9:19

Karajan/Philharmonia                 9:14   5:15   3:40     9:52 
Berglund/Helsinki                        8:14   5:31   3:55   11:12

(as reported by Squeezebox, so you have to account for a few seconds of silence included in the timings of the ripped files.)

If you have access to Fanfare online, search for the Sibeliusaurus, which has movement timings for nearly every recording of the symphonies made up to then.

Todd

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Wakefield

#30337
Quote from: Todd on October 15, 2012, 06:18:00 PM


Some days ago I was listening to Sepec and his partners (Coviello Classics) and it's a wonderful set.

The violin performance, the continuo and the sound quality let nothing to be desired.



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Just in case you're planning to order something from Europe.  :)
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Sergeant Rock

Ordered yesterday at 14:18, arrived this morning shortly after nine: Haydn by the Hobbit.




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

DavidRoss

#30339
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 16, 2012, 03:13:24 AM
Ordered yesterday at 14:18, arrived this morning shortly after nine: Haydn by the Hobbit.
Must be a tiny fellow, eh? Or does he have hairy feet?

I see you're growing your Haydn collection with Fey. I have one or two of his discs, and though I liked the articulation and clarity of his approach, I recall some of his tempos as more than a little brisk. Is this a general tendency with his approach?

Just shipped:
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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