Past Purchases (CLOSED)

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Thanks to a suggestion in the Bernstein thread, I just downloaded this from DG.

As this is my favourite Mahler First, please report back, Dave...

[eyeresist]

Don't worry, you didn't say anything bad at all, not by a long shot.

Thanks!   0:)

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I didn't notice. Thank you! Is it meant to be in one movement? I've only heard a few of his short pieces and am eager to hear more.

Yes, the Fourth is in one movement.

Other favourite Alfvén pieces of mine: Third Swedish Rhapsody (Dalarapsodi), First Swedish Rhapsody (Midsommarvaka) and the Elegy from Gustaf Adolf... And there are other symphonies, too, of course (I like the Third very much).

[Subotnick]

Yes, the Fourth is in one movement.

Other favourite Alfvén pieces of mine: Third Swedish Rhapsody (Dalarapsodi), First Swedish Rhapsody (Midsommarvaka) and the Elegy from Gustaf Adolf... And there are other symphonies, too, of course (I like the Third very much).

Good. Wasn't sure. On the odd occasion I have downloaded symphonies which have unintenionally been lumped together! Downloading as I type and listening to the Järvi. Thanks again...

TTFN.
Me.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Good. Wasn't sure. On the odd occasion I have downloaded symphonies which have unintenionally been lumped together! Downloading as I type and listening to the Järvi. Thanks again..

Just to give you the right info: Elisabeth Söderström and Gösta Winberg are soloists with Stig Westerberg conducting the Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra (in Alfvén's Fourth, I made a mistake, it isn't Segerstam).

Another piece of Alfvén advice: listen to the First Rhapsody first, a piece of eternal freshness, then listen to the Third Rhapsody, and hear how summer has turned into autumn, with all the melancholy that brings and memories (even when the music starts to dance, it's only a looking back...)

[Subotnick]

Just to give you the right info: Elisabeth Söderström and Gösta Winberg are soloists with Stig Westerberg conducting the Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra (in Alfvén's Fourth, I made a mistake, it isn't Segerstam).

Another piece of Alfvén advice: listen to the First Rhapsody first, a piece of eternal freshness, then listen to the Third Rhapsody, and hear how summer has turned into autumn, with all the melancholy that brings and memories (even when the music starts to dance, it's only a looking back...)

That sounds like a great piece of advice! And thanks for that info  But classical listening is off for a while here as there's some heavy duty D.I.Y. going on outside! 

TTFN.
Me.

[Wanderer]

The soundbites of this new account of Brahms' First Concerto by Angelich sounded quite intriguing (the Hungarian Dances, too). The Beethoven recital and Liszt's Années de Pèlerinage were on sale (they have received decent reviews in the past); an opportunity to get further acquainted with this artist's style, which was so far known to me by means of his chamber music recordings and from the Lugano festival albums with Martha Argerich and friends.





(Sonatas op.53 "Waldstein", op.26 & op.111)



The above complete my Pollini plays Beethoven sonatas discography...




...and these came highly recommended (being the reason for this order).

[BorisG]

Well, hold on. Richter played 16 of the 24 Shostakovich preludes, which is a very respectable representation. And he recorded many of them. But no one ever said these works had to be played as a group. Just like the Chopin.

And on disc Shostakovich himself only recorded a selection of these - his own - preludes. There's no recording anywhere of a complete set of these works from Shostakovich's own hand. So, really, that says everything.

As was said in my first post on this topic, respectable representation isn't good enough for some scholars, critics and admirers. 16 of 24? Why not do them all?

Sets aren't important to some, including a few on this thread. But they are to others, for historical, comparative, enjoyment (or shall we substitute consumerism for enjoyment?), any number of reasons.

I keep hearing a few here say Chopin Etudes weren't meant to be played as a group. Since when? Op. 10 was published as a volume in 1833, and Op. 25 in 1837. It stands to reason that pianists of recognition will start playing them as groups.

The few here have attempted to interject right and wrong into this discussion. That in itself is wrong.

Chopin Etudes were soon recognized to be much more than finger exercises (some contend that the notion of 'finger exercises' died before the 19th century) and have grown in stature ever since. Some scholars include them (as wholes/groups/sets) amongst his greatest works. To say they would have liked to hear wholes from an artist such as Richter, is an understatement.

I have to think your Shostakovich point would be weightier, if one, he had been the pianist Richter was, and two, not a composer first and foremost.

Gentlemen, have we done pissing yet?

[BorisG]

Actually I don't think Richter needs to be defended. Except against comments like the one you made, which are wholly based on consumerism, that is.

I don't know Boris. There are too many times when you dodge the issue. What did you mean then?

You were on safer ground with the Richter "likes, and nothing to add" defense.

Dodge the issue? Hardly. You have been the one with the twists and turns.

[BorisG]

And you, my friend, are suffering from forgetfulness and redundancy, at the very least.

Pity, that so many have to be rude in trying to make a point. Be gone with you.


What on earth did I say to be accused of rudeness? Did "opus interruptus" offend your delicate sensibilities?

Or perhaps you just can't stand being disagreed with.

Opus interruptus was a stab at wit? That is even worse. Be gone again.

I should add that we all should be gone from this topic. We have overstayed in the "Purchases today" thread.

[ezodisy]

You were on safer ground with the Richter "likes, and nothing to add" defense.

Dodge the issue? Hardly. You have been the one with the twists and turns.

Sorry, but what twists and turns? You tried to justify the idea that "cherry-picking" is a negative thing in this context. Then you tried to build up a story that "no doubt" Shostakovich's questioning had to do with Richter's integrity. Look, I really don't care either way, but when you can't defend what you write and then try to blame it on me, you look more than a little silly.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

I have to think your Shostakovich point would be weightier, if one, he had been the pianist Richter was, and two, not a composer first and foremost.

Weightier than what? Shostakovich was the composer of the works! Can't get any weightier than that!

When the COMPOSER takes up only a smattering of his own works on recordings he's obviously not too concerned with completeness. 

Plus Shostakovich himself was no slouch at the piano. That's a matter of record. Recital life was a part of his routine, until later when his health deteriorated. But whether or not he matched up to Richter - or any other pianist - is completely irrelevant to whether he should record all the P&F's or not. How could it?

[BorisG]

Sorry, but what twists and turns? You tried to justify the idea that "cherry-picking" is a negative thing in this context. Then you tried to build up a story that "no doubt" Shostakovich's questioning had to do with Richter's integrity. Look, I really don't care either way, but when you can't defend what you write and then try to blame it on me, you look more than a little silly.

I think you do care either way. Talk about negativity. If you are truly interested in a return to more forum discussion, you should step back to undergo a full stock-check.

[71 dB]

Oh right, you were just talking about how much others have no clue about music, just as usual. How foolish of me to forget something of such monumental importance.

Thanks to M forever I learned I don't have a clue about music. Fortunately I'm able to enjoy music without all the understanding and knowledge...  I apologize all people on this forum I talked bullshit about Elgar's excellence so long.

[BorisG]

Weightier than what? Shostakovich was the composer of the works! Can't get any weightier than that!

When the COMPOSER takes up only a smattering of his own works on recordings he's obviously not too concerned with completeness. 

Plus Shostakovich himself was no slouch at the piano. That's a matter of record. Recital life was a part of his routine, until later when his health deteriorated. But whether or not he matched up to Richter - or any other pianist - is completely irrelevant to whether he should record all the P&F's or not. How could it?

If Shostakovich was not puzzled by Richter's omissions, then why did he engage him in such a QA? Certainly not for small talk.

Who said Shostakovich was a slouch? And who said he didn't perform and record?

Completely irrelevant for Richter or Shostakovich to record all? I don't think so, for the reasons I previously stated.

That is my final word on this topic. Think and write your worst, gentlemen.

[ezodisy]

I think you do care either way. Talk about negativity. If you are truly interested in a return to more forum discussion, you should step back to undergo a full stock-check.

Unfortunately this is not the first time that you've asserted something without being able to back it up. Anyway, not my filth to wallow in.

[Drasko]

Most recent purchases, only that last one actually today:

[Que]

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[karlhenning]

I apologize all people on this forum I talked bullshit about Elgar's excellence so long.

Apology accepted, Poju!

[Holden]

Thanks to a friend I've received a solo disc of Egorov playing Scarlatti, Haydn and Beethoven and if this CD is anything to go by then Egorov should have been in my collection long before this so the 7CD collection "The Master Pianist might well be worth getting.