Past Purchases (CLOSED)

Started by Harry, April 06, 2007, 03:33:51 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Todd




Came out yesterday in the US.  I couldn't wait any longer.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

mn dave

Quote from: Todd on June 11, 2008, 04:02:27 PM
Came out yesterday in the US.  I couldn't wait any longer.

What's the word on that one, Todd?

SonicMan46

Quote from: Kwoon on June 11, 2008, 08:04:53 AM
Just got these today:
......................................
David, thanks for remembering me!  I vaguely remember that you were considering moving to Rhode Island.  Did you end up doing that?

Kwoon - you're back!  ;D  I believe that one of the last conversations we had was on the IBM ThinkPads - now, Lenovo!  Hope that you plan to stay awhile - welcome home!  Dave

M forever

Quote from: Drasko on June 11, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
Erwin Stein, Schönberg's pupil, did arrangement of Mahler's 4th for Schönberg's 'Society for Private Musical Performances'.

But is that what's on that CD? My impression was that it was the full orchestral version, just with a smaller string body.

Todd

Quote from: MN Dave on June 11, 2008, 04:59:26 PMWhat's the word on that one, Todd?


The Schumann is superb (I already have that twofer), and the first disc of Debussy and Chopin is excellent, maybe better than that.  (Just finished listening to it.)  More listening to follow.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

Harry

Brilliant releases I ordered today.

Harry

 :)2

Harry

 :)3

Holden

Quote from: Todd on June 11, 2008, 06:06:41 PM

The Schumann is superb (I already have that twofer), and the first disc of Debussy and Chopin is excellent, maybe better than that.  (Just finished listening to it.)  More listening to follow.

I recently got The Canal Grande CD with Egorov playing Haydn, Scarlatti and Beethoven and was so impressed by both the playing and musicianship. I'll wait for a final analysis from Todd but this has almost certainly got to be on my shopping list.

Cheers

Holden

Drasko

Quote from: M forever on June 11, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
But is that what's on that CD? My impression was that it was the full orchestral version, just with a smaller string body.

Don't know what Harding does, I was just stating the fact that there is a chamber version of 4th coming from Schönberg's circle. You're probably right about Harding just using reduced orchestra, if he was using Stein's arrangement that had to be mentioned somewhere.


Harry

Due to the fact, that I am heavily impressed with Medtner, and willing to explore further I found this inexpensive Hyperion cd, for just 8 euro's with Piano concerto 2 & 3.

pjme

Just a personal reaction. :o ..recently I heard a pianoconcerto on the radio that really got me nervous and angry  >:D( happens very rarely!!) : a thick soup à la Rachmaninoff , endless meanderings ,tons of of neverending notes. After an eternity, the work actually did stop ....It turned out to be Medtner's second concerto...!  :o

I was really amazed, for I do appreciate his solo pianoworks.... much more personal and poetic.

P.

Harry

Quote from: pjme on June 12, 2008, 03:43:33 AM
Just a personal reaction. :o ..recently I heard a pianoconcerto on the radio that really got me nervous and angry  >:D( happens very rarely!!) : a thick soup à la Rachmaninoff , endless meanderings ,tons of of neverending notes. After an eternity, the work actually did stop ....It turned out to be Medtner's second concerto...!  :o

I was really amazed, for I do appreciate his solo pianoworks.... much more personal and poetic.

P.

You are sure, you weren't in one of your moods? ;D
Well members on the board found it to be very good, so I take my chances, unless I am warned off. ;)

Wanderer

#7073
Quote from: pjme on June 12, 2008, 03:43:33 AM
Just a personal reaction. :o ..recently I heard a pianoconcerto on the radio that really got me nervous and angry  >:D( happens very rarely!!) : a thick soup à la Rachmaninoff , endless meanderings ,tons of of neverending notes. After an eternity, the work actually did stop ....It turned out to be Medtner's second concerto...!  :o

I was really amazed, for I do appreciate his solo pianoworks.... much more personal and poetic.

P.

Which performance was it? From your description, that's the impression one would get from a careless, note-spinning performance – or after a superficial first hearing. Unfortunately, we're still at the stage where performers struggle with the notes and not the essence of these works. Many try to play Medtner like they would Rachmaninov or any other romantic composer, which is disastrous. They may share superficial stylistic elements and inhabit similar late-romantic soundworlds but Medtner's music should really be approached on its own terms, with minute care to its rhythmic, motivic, contrapuntal and structural details and complexities. Sweeping, generalized readings destroy these works, whereas Rachmaninov's music for instance has the fortunate ability to survive careless performances with less casualties.


Quote from: Harry on June 12, 2008, 02:31:39 AM
Due to the fact, that I am heavily impressed with Medtner, and willing to explore further I found this inexpensive Hyperion cd, for just 8 euro's with Piano concerto 2 & 3.

Harry, this is an essential purchase. Demidenko is very good in these works (phenomenal in some places) and the orchestra plays with real passion; if only the recording was better (the orchestra sounds congested and rather muddled in the tutti passages).The Second Concerto inhabits the epic world of the Night Wind sonata, being a passionate, extroverted work. In this regard, it's the most Rachmaninov-like of Medtner's concertos. Demidenko plays the longer of the two available first-movement cadenzas and his interpretation is the best available overall - for the time being.
I feel the same for his intepretation of the Third Concerto; a late work, bearing the surname ballade for piano and orchestra. It's a rhapsodic masterpiece with some of the most gorgeous and passionate melodies in the whole concerto repertoire.

Harry

Quote from: Wanderer on June 12, 2008, 04:39:50 AM
Harry, this is an essential purchase. Demidenko is very good in these works (phenomenal in some places) and the orchestra plays with real passion; if only the recording was better (the orchestra sounds congested and rather muddled in the tutti passages).The Second Concerto inhabits the epic world of the Night Wind sonata, being a passionate, extroverted work. In this regard, it's the most Rachmaninov-like of Medtner's concertos. Demidenko plays the longer of the two available first-movement cadenzas and his interpretation is the best available overall - for the time being.
I feel the same for his interpretation of the Third Concerto; a late work, bearing the surname ballade for piano and orchestra. It's a rhapsodic masterpiece with some of the most gorgeous and passionate melodies in the whole concerto repertoire.

That is what I needed to know Tasos, thank you, and we will see about the recording, first is the excellence of interpretation.

mn dave

Quote from: Todd on June 11, 2008, 06:06:41 PM

The Schumann is superb (I already have that twofer), and the first disc of Debussy and Chopin is excellent, maybe better than that.  (Just finished listening to it.)  More listening to follow.

Thanks. I'm gettin' it...eventually...

mn dave

Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2008, 05:11:41 AM
Thanks. I'm gettin' it...eventually...

I guess "eventually" was "now." Just ordered it. Thanks, Todd!


Harry


mn dave

Quote from: Harry on June 12, 2008, 05:42:59 AM
Ans why should you, this set has many merits..... :)

Well, because I don't have money falling out of my ass, but a steal is a steal.  ;D