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[Coopmv]

Just ordered this CD from an Amazon MarketPlace vendor ...

[Coopmv]

Just ordered this set since it was recently remastered with more advanced technology than my current set, which is a bit older ...



My current set

[DavidRoss]

Mahler, Das Lied von der Erde
Nagano, Gerhaher, Klaus Florian Vogt
Sony 8869 7508 212

Now that's tempting, especially after his fine Mahler 8th and then MTT's Das Lied overcoming my prejudices against two males in this work.  Let us know what you think when you've digested it, please.

Thread duty:  I'm on the bandwagon for the remastered Kempff stereo LvB set, to accompany the mono set that I hold so dear.  Thanks for the heads up, y'all!

[Bogey]

George,
Is the remastering actually different on CBE than on this new set, or just a re-release of the CBE?

[George]

George,
Is the remastering actually different on CBE than on this new set, or just  are-release of the CBE?

It sounds different to me, but not different enough to warrant another purchase if one already has the CBE mastering.

I compared an 320 MP3 download of the central movement of the Pathetique from each and determined that they sounded slightly different, but both were clearly better than the original mastering. The 2008 mastering sounded a little better than the CBE, but the results were not conclusive because I wasn't comparing the WAV files of each.

The two sets are available for download at DG, so anyone can download a movement from each set and compare for just a few bucks.

[Bogey]

I compared an 320 MP3 download of the central movement of the Pathetique from each and determined that they sounded slightly different, but both were clearly better than the original mastering. The 2008 mastering sounded a little better than the CBE, but the results were not conclusive because I wasn't comparing the WAV files of each.

The two sets are available for download at DG, so anyone can download a movement from each set and compare for just a few bucks.

Thanks!

[George]

Thanks!

Your welcome. I just added this, thinking it might be useful to you:

It sounds different to me, but not different enough to warrant another purchase if one already has the CBE mastering.

[Coopmv]

Finally pulled the trigger on this CD set 5 minutes ago, as Newbury Comics at AMP has a great price ...

[Holden]

Finally pulled the trigger on this CD set 5 minutes ago, as Newbury Comics at AMP has a great price ...

If this is your first set of the Nocturnes then I feel that you could do better but you may disagree. I found Pires just a bit too fussy in this music. It was like she was trying to forcibly extract every moment of expression from each nocturne creating an unnatural feel to the works.

However, you may like your Chopin in this style. You could make some direct comparisons between her set and Arrau's which I dislike for similar reasons. Let us know what you think.

[Coopmv]

If this is your first set of the Nocturnes then I feel that you could do better but you may disagree. I found Pires just a bit too fussy in this music. It was like she was trying to forcibly extract every moment of expression from each nocturne creating an unnatural feel to the works.

However, you may like your Chopin in this style. You could make some direct comparisons between her set and Arrau's which I dislike for similar reasons. Let us know what you think.

This will be my 7th version.  I already have the version by Arrau.  I got the version by Earl Wild a week ago and thought it was quite good.

[Holden]

This will be my 7th version.  I already have the version by Arrau.  I got the version by Earl Wild a week ago and thought it was quite good.

For me there are only two sets that I would consider. The 60's Stereo  by Rubinstein and the Moravec. I've heard many more but these are the two that I always come back to.

[George]

For me there are only two sets that I would consider. The 60's Stereo  by Rubinstein and the Moravec. I've heard many more but these are the two that I always come back to.

Have you heard the Ciccolini or the Tipo?

[Coopmv]

This will be my 7th version.  I already have the version by Arrau.  I got the version by Earl Wild a week ago and thought it was quite good.

Correction.  This should be my 8th version, I just realized I did not count my 11-CD Rubinstein's set on RCA Gold Seal. 

[Coopmv]

Have you heard the Ciccolini or the Tipo?

George,  Isn't Maria Tipo pretty much a new love for you (in the musical sense)?     

[SonicMan46]

This will be my 7th version.  I already have the version by Arrau.  I got the version by Earl Wild a week ago and thought it was quite good.

Concerning the Chopin Nocturnes, I currently own just the Moravec set (did have Ashkenazy & Hewitt on CD; and Rubenstein on LP 25 yrs ago); thus, would love to obtain an additional set or two - sounds like picking up the re-mastered Rubenstein would be a good choice, but now I'm curious about Earl Wild (ridiculous cover art but has gleamed some great comments) - any additional support for Wild?  Thanks all - 

[George]

George,  Isn't Maria Tipo pretty much a new love for you (in the musical sense)?     

Yes, her Chopin is superb, IMO.

[Coopmv]

Concerning the Chopin Nocturnes, I currently own just the Moravec set (did have Ashkenazy & Hewitt on CD; and Rubenstein on LP 25 yrs ago); thus, would love to obtain an additional set or two - sounds like picking up the re-mastered Rubenstein would be a good choice, but now I'm curious about Earl Wild (ridiculous cover art but has gleamed some great comments) - any additional support for Wild?  Thanks all - 

I bought the Wild's set just last week and enjoyed it.  The CD artwork is a bit corny but the recording stacks up against the competitions quite well.  The recording was made in 97 when Wild was already in his 80's, which is quite remarkable IMO.  BTW, I bought from the MarketPlace vendor MRDAVIS, who has the best price and sent the 2-CD set in HARD cardbox pretty quickly.

see link

[Antoine Marchand]

Concerning the Chopin Nocturnes, I currently own just the Moravec set (did have Ashkenazy & Hewitt on CD; and Rubenstein on LP 25 yrs ago); thus, would love to obtain an additional set or two - sounds like picking up the re-mastered Rubenstein would be a good choice, but now I'm curious about Earl Wild (ridiculous cover art but has gleamed some great comments) - any additional support for Wild?  Thanks all -  

Why not Arrau? Why not, Dave?  

Especially, when you can purchase the re-mastered version.

I own the previous release and I am totally happy.

Just read this tempting description quoted on Arkiv:

"Claudio Arrau's famous 1978 traversal of the Chopin Nocturnes was recorded at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw and originally released on LP in Philips' Trésors Classiques series. The performances always were highly rated, and with the possible exception of Ivan Moravec's cycle, they're still front-runners despite their near quarter-century vintage. This latest Philips 50 transfer is remarkable--fresh-sounding and transparent, with no loss of quality at either dynamic or registral extremes. The new remastering also allows you to enjoy the performances more as if you were seated centrally in the Concertgebouw's main stalls, so the bloom and resonance of the hall itself gives Arrau's outstanding playing a tangible sense of place and heightened atmosphere, too. The subtleties and technical refinements of Arrau's playing are both too numerous and too familiar to require specific analysis: you can sample any of the works and find ample evidence of these qualities. However, this set is now even more of a "must have" because of the useful fillers added to Disc 2. Both of these substantial works, the F sharp major Barcarolle Op. 60 and the monumental F minor Fantaisie Op. 49, receive exceptional performances. An essential purchase. [7/10/2001]

--Michael Jameson, ClassicsToday.com"

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?site_id=CTRV&album_id=5503

[Coopmv]

Why not Arrau? Why not, Dave?  

Especially, when you can purchase the re-mastered version.

I own the previous release and I am totally happy.

When it comes to Chopin Nocturnes, the Arrau's version is a must-have.

[SonicMan46]

Antoine & Stuart - thanks for the comments on the Chopin Nocturnes - 

I don't own much w/ Arrau, but believe that I need to ADD him to my possible purchases for these works! - thanks - Dave