Fat Enders

[Mozart]

Yeah, that date is when I go back to college. And that weight goal (157) is 25 pounds less than I weighed last year when I went to college. BTW Mozart, you're a good bit taller than I am; I'm just 5'7" and a half.

Hmm I see, but 10 pounds in a month is a bit much, you can probably lose 5 if you work very hard



What exactly is hunger? Is it some feeling in youre stomach really? On Yom Kippur, I have no food or water for 25 hours, and its not food I want at all. I get the feeling, the one I've always thought was hunger, even in my throat. But any thought I have is about water, I usually drink water when its over and I don't even feel like eating until the next morning.

Even if you don't feel hungry, you still need energy to function. Also, if you're trying to lose weight, your body might go into starvation mode, which bungles up your metabolism.

Starvation mode? It sounds like a myth to me to scare stupid young girls into not becoming anorexic. I don't doubt that you would have a slower metabolism, just that in some magical way you stock up on fat or you slow you're metabolism forever.

If Im not wrong, it takes 5 days before you're body starts using its fat for energy, what is the body using before that? Well the body will use stored glucose in the liver. Whats so bad with not eating for 1 day?

Wouldn't lowering youre blood sugar in insulin levels make you convert less food into fat than more?

[DavidW]

Mozart you are simply confusing stomach acid with hunger.  Hunger is more complicated than that.  It also has a psychological component.

[Brian]

Hmm I see, but 10 pounds in a month is a bit much, you can probably lose 5 if you work very hard

Hence my disappointment.  I'll just see where I end up ... still can set a long-range goal of 150-155 by the end of the school year and make it.

[Dr. Dread]

260.5, but I've been sick with a fever.

[secondwind]

Update on my amount to lose--the countdown, from June 24 to today:
48, 47, 46, 45 

I renewed my acquaintance with the gym today, and modified my routine to focus on upper body strength only. I'll count on the jogging/walking routine for the lower body strength.   

And congratulations on your loss, Dave.  I'm sure its not just the fever!

[Mozart]

The compliments I've received have inspired me to work hard to lose the last bit I need to. I can see the light at the end and better not turn around to the darkness! I just wish summer would end quick, I like most people hate the heat, and it makes me lazy to walk or anything. If only I could go by the beach everyday!

So I've about 15 to loose, I don't know exactly, I'll know when I see it, but 15 is an estimate.

[secondwind]

260.5, but I've been sick with a fever.

Hey Dave, how's that fever?  Two days without a post--that's not the Diner-Boy we know and love!  Gather the last remaining shreds of strength in your probably by now emaciated body and send us a reassuring post!

[Dr. Dread]

Hey Dave, how's that fever?  Two days without a post--that's not the Diner-Boy we know and love!  Gather the last remaining shreds of strength in your probably by now emaciated body and send us a reassuring post!

Still 260.5 but feeling much better. Back to the jog/walk thing tomorrow. 

[karlhenning]

Very glad that you're feeling better, Dave!

[Dr. Dread]

Very glad that you're feeling better, Dave!

Thanks, Karl.

[secondwind]

Still 260.5 but feeling much better. Back to the jog/walk thing tomorrow. 

Good to hear you are feeling better!  I managed to drag myself out for a 30 minute jog this morning after taking the weekend off.  I'm still looking for the easy button for this weight loss process--and some other things, like playing clarinet, money management, human relations . . . .

[Harpo]

All of the above suggestions are excellent, but rationality isn't enough to motivate me. I am trying to lose 20 pounds; 160 is above my "ideal" weight but would be satisfactory and perhaps improve my sleep apnea and pre-diabetes. I've gotten used to the way I look at 5'5" 180, so it's mostly for health. I am strugging with 2 things:
 1. That little voice that says "I know it's not the healthiest choice but I WANT IT" or "Just a bite"
 2. Taking several meds that contribute to weight gain
I am trying to do the healthy diet/more veggies thing and exercise 5 days a week, including the gym, moderate hiking, and (last resort) basement exercise bike.

[Mozart]

1. That little voice that says "I know it's not the healthiest choice but I WANT IT" or "Just a bite"

This is an addiction type thing...you just need to get off the junk completely for 2 months...difficult but not impossible, and you wont really get cravings for junk. But once you do that don't slip up! You wont want it but maybe you'll go to the market and see it and reward yourself...and then its there again...Suddenly the next day you get a bad craving. Suffer for awhile, find the dishes that are yummy and healthy, eat the green, simple

[Dr. Dread]

260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.

[karlhenning]

Progress!

[secondwind]

260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.

Excellent!

[Dr. Dread]

Thanks, folks.

[Mozart]

260 even. That's twelve pounds so far, if you're counting.

12/52=23%

Dave is my hero! Keep it up my friend!

[Dr. Dread]

12/52=23%

Dave is my hero! Keep it up my friend!

0:)  Thanks, buddy.

[secondwind]

I'm feeling very virtuous here. . . I went out running before work, even though it felt like a sauna, and I prepared a low-fat lunch. . . 0:)  So, tomorrow, the acid test--the weigh-in