Fat Enders

[Brahmsian]

Glad to hear it is going so well, Ray.  Keep it going brother!

Thanks very much, Bill! 

[Karl Henning]

This morning (at long last): 230.0

Man, I want to see that 2 in the tens!

[EigenUser]

This morning (at long last): 230.0

Man, I want to see that 2 in the tens!

Congrats!

I've been going to the gym a lot recently. Two or three times a week (including this morning) I wake up at 3:45AM in the morning so I could get ready and be there by the time they open (I need about 45 minutes to get ready and 15 minutes to drive to my university, where the gym is). It's amazing how much better you feel about yourself. I've been getting to bed around 8:30-9:00PM, so getting up at such an hour isn't so bad. I've always liked waking up early and on a regular day I get up around 4:30-5:00AM.

[PaulR]

This morning I was up a few pounds at 192, most likely just water weight from rather salty pizza the night before.

Still, it's not easy to resist the irrationality of obsessing over those few pounds

And I probably should start going to the gym again, not necessarily to lose more weight, but rather just tone the body.

[Karl Henning]

Hallelujah!  This morning: 229.6

More work, I know, but what a landmark feeling . . . .

[snyprrr]

Hallelujah!  This morning: 229.6

More work, I know, but what a landmark feeling . . . .

A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.

But why don't people accept that a 165-180lb Karl IS going to THINK DIFFERENTLY than a 250lb Karl?

Do you think I'M the "hater" here?

I'm all for y'alls losing the guts, but the vociferous ones in the other Thread seem to think.... gaaah,.... I don't know what they think- like losing weight is giving in to the bigots??? wtf??


There are MANY ways in which we can lose our humanity, no? What am I missing? (I HAVE to be mean to cellulite for a reason- that won't change- it's for the greater good!!)

Did Hitler ever give Geobbels shit?

[ibanezmonster]

A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.

More like the fact that this thread is 83 pages- says it all.

I remember Elias telling me a few years ago that he laughs at this place because all he had to do to change from being obese to thin within a year was to switch to a fruit-only diet. Anyone try that? If so and it hasn't worked, my sympathies, but I'd be surprised if many people here have tried it.

[Karl Henning]

A swift perusal of the numbers in this Thread and I can see why I'm getting so much heat from the gallery.

But why don't people accept that a 165-180lb Karl IS going to THINK DIFFERENTLY than a 250lb Karl?

Do you think I'M the "hater" here?

I'm all for y'alls losing the guts, but the vociferous ones in the other Thread seem to think.... gaaah,.... I don't know what they think- like losing weight is giving in to the bigots??? wtf??


There are MANY ways in which we can lose our humanity, no? What am I missing? (I HAVE to be mean to cellulite for a reason- that won't change- it's for the greater good!!)

Did Hitler ever give Geobbels shit?

Dude, I just want to weigh a bit less, manage my cholesterol numbers easier with minimal medication.

We'll see what effect a lighter Karl has on the music he writes . . . .

More like the fact that this thread is 83 pages- says it all.

I remember Elias telling me a few years ago that he laughs at this place because all he had to do to change from being obese to thin within a year was to switch to a fruit-only diet. Anyone try that? If so and it hasn't worked, my sympathies, but I'd be surprised if many people here have tried it.

I eat fruit daily, but not too much, for the obvious reason that fructose is still a sugar.  Lots of vegetables, now, that's a diet I can live with.

[Jo498]

I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.

(I am not fat, but I trying to get from about 78 kg to below 75, preferably around 72; I am about 1,74 tall. But I am just trying to eat a little less and exercise more and avoid most alcoholic beverages and sweets.)

[ibanezmonster]

We'll see what effect a lighter Karl has on the music he writes . . . .

230 really isn't all that bad for your height. If you were 5'2," I'd be seriously concerned... 

[ibanezmonster]

I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.

I think it's been about 4 years or so since Elias has been on that diet, though. I'm sure every now and then he might "cheat," but in his experience it works. And like Karl said, there's always vegetables also...

[Jo498]

o.k., maybe some people can, I certainly could not and it seems rather low on protein and some other things the body needs.

[kishnevi]

Good lord!  Different perceptions, indeed.
I have extreme difficulty with keeping my weight under 155 and I really want to be under 150 because over thatweight I look rather pudgy. I am 5'11".
Part of my problem is that I have Crohn's disease,  which pushes large swathes of normal diet off the table, so to speak.  Nothing with fiber, no oil or grease ( which impacts meat, fish and baked goods well beyond the obvious.  So I can not eat "healthy".  Elias's diet would land me in the hospital in a few days.

[ibanezmonster]

Good lord!  Different perceptions, indeed.
I have extreme difficulty with keeping my weight under 155 and I really want to be under 150 because over thatweight I look rather pudgy. I am 5'11".
Part of my problem is that I have Crohn's disease,  which pushes large swathes of normal diet off the table, so to speak.  Nothing with fiber, no oil or grease ( which impacts meat, fish and baked goods well beyond the obvious.  So I can not eat "healthy".  Elias's diet would land me in the hospital in a few days.

Really? lol I'm having a hard time imagining someone looking pudgy at 5'11" 155 lbs... maybe lift weights if you don't already, but I'm 5'10" 152 lbs and I still look thinner than I'd like. My final goal is 180 lbs with abs, which may be a very difficult next two years...

[Karl Henning]

I do not think anyone can keep going for very long on a fruit-only-diet. You may lose a lot of weight in a few months, but you cannot really live like that. The point is to change your diet into something you can sustain for the rest of your life and which is healthy.

Indeed.

[PaulR]

189.4 lbs 

[Karl Henning]

Well done!

[snyprrr]

Really? lol I'm having a hard time imagining someone looking pudgy at 5'11" 155 lbs... maybe lift weights if you don't already, but I'm 5'10" 152 lbs and I still look thinner than I'd like. My final goal is 180 lbs with abs, which may be a very difficult next two years...

Greg----- 180? you'll look like a meat monster----- I mean---- that's 30lbs you want to add to 5'10?

did a girl put you up to this?

seriously- 165 should be Steve Reeves enough for you I think


maintaining what you want would be too much, no?

[ibanezmonster]

Greg----- 180? you'll look like a meat monster----- I mean---- that's 30lbs you want to add to 5'10?

did a girl put you up to this?

seriously- 165 should be Steve Reeves enough for you I think


maintaining what you want would be too much, no?

lol just my idea...
And yeah, maintaining that will be a pain lol... with my metabolism, I'll have to have order a dump truck full of food each day.

[snyprrr]

lol just my idea...
And yeah, maintaining that will be a pain lol... with my metabolism, I'll have to have order a dump truck full of food each day.

YEA, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO EAT (soorry caps)- to GAIN weight-- like 23,000 calories a day--- who can eat that muuu.... oh, yea,... nevermind...

I tried these little cookie dough shakes- tiny bottle/400 calories- it was great, but went right into my indigestion section, ugggh.

You can always whip up one of those peanut butter and oatmeal shakes- 2 a day- but you'll have to work out or you'll be back here complaining about yer gut.

I just can't seem to find the high fat food I want.


I hate eating.

I go to Chipotle and I just get tired thinking about having to eat that huge bowl of rice and chicken. I can only eat there once every six months- even though it's like a perfect meal. I just want shakes shakes shakes.... tired of chewing and eating (get the feeling I already Posted this here before)

I don't get the people that can't stop eating- they should start smoking and drinking coffee- simple.


Since I picked up this coffee habit again six months ago I haven't been ABLE to eat--- it's a struggle just to get a meal every few days--- ffffuuuu.... looove coffee... mwah mwah mwah... too much...