Is Bax the next big thing?

Started by 12tone., June 02, 2007, 05:44:00 PM

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vandermolen

This is my favourite Bax CD - although of largely unknown works - well worth investigating as it is at budget price. As for the symphonies I'd recommend No 2 and 5 on a single Lyrita CD - great performances by Myer Fredman and Raymond Leppard.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

The new erato

Quote from: vandermolen on August 06, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
As for the symphonies I'd recommend No 2 and 5 on a single Lyrita CD - great performances by Myer Fredman and Raymond Leppard.
That disc - particularly no 5 - was my wakeup call to the greatness of Bax despite having heard various discs through the years.

Herman

Quote from: 12tone. on June 02, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
There seems to be lots of Bruckner and Mahler threads here.  Great symphonies.  But in the line of things, do you think Bax is next?  I have the Handley box on Chandos and they seem really well played (and good sound) but Bax really changes ideas fast; faster than Mahler I think.  Last time I tried to get through a symphony his ideas, phrases were all over the place.  Seemed each new few bars had completely unrelated material. 

Is Bax a great composer that's going to be the next big thing in symphonic soundscapes in the line of Beethoven, Bruckner and Mahler, or is he off to the side for a reason? 

Bruckner -> Mahler -> Shostakovich

vandermolen

Quote from: erato on August 06, 2009, 09:28:20 PM
That disc - particularly no 5 - was my wakeup call to the greatness of Bax despite having heard various discs through the years.

Me too - on a Lyrita LP. I was actually lucky enough to hear the work live - at the Proms many years ago.  The Albert Hall was sadly but predictably half-empty  :(
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Grazioso

The next big thing? Pretty doubtful. But darn if he isn't an intriguing and delightful composer! Anyone with a hankering for lush, challenging Late Romanticism needs to explore his work. Oh, and woodwind players, too, since winds play a central role in his unique style of orchestrating.

A good place to start, which includes some of his most accessible "greatest hits" like the unforgettable Tingtagel:



Quote from: DavidW on August 06, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
I've been rediscovering Bax since I bought the Handley box set.  Exceptional music.  I think I wasn't wowed enough with the previous recordings.  The Thomson recordings sounded too remote (bad acoustics?) and Lloyd-Jones take on it so fast it just makes a joke of the music.  But Handley brings great sound quality AND performances to the table. 

I have both the Handley and the Lloyd-Jones cycles and find the latter an excellent alternative to the former. Both were/are skilled, dedicated Baxians.
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

vandermolen

Quote from: Grazioso on August 07, 2009, 03:47:55 AM
The next big thing? Pretty doubtful. But darn if he isn't an intriguing and delightful composer! Anyone with a hankering for lush, challenging Late Romanticism needs to explore his work. Oh, and woodwind players, too, since winds play a central role in his unique style of orchestrating.

A good place to start, which includes some of his most accessible "greatest hits" like the unforgettable Tingtagel:



I have both the Handley and the Lloyd-Jones cycles and find the latter an excellent alternative to the former. Both were/are skilled, dedicated Baxians.

Yes, that's a really good intro. to Bax too.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Superhorn

  I don't know if Bax is the "next big thing", but his music certainly deserves to be heard more often, and I certainly hope this will happen.
But his music is somewhat elusive,particularly his symphonies, and does not reveal its secrets on first hearing .
I've heard the Thomson set of the symphonies, but not the more recent Handley one ,both on Chandos, and have the classic Barbirolli/Halle orch. recording on EMI coupled with music by John Ireland .
The colorful tone poem "Tintagel" is a work which I think would please audiences if they got to hear it.
  But Bax is only one of many lesser-known but estimable composers who might become the"next big thing", such as Myaskovsky, Stenhammar, Berwald, Bliss, Schmidt, Fibich, Koechlin, etc.