Viva Vivaldi!

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Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 12:16:29 PM
I first got those sonatas years ago, performed by Ofra Harnoy (the disk with the cool poster in the box!). Ter Linden does those 6, plus a couple that she inexplicably left out.  :)

My first disc was a Sony Vivarte with Anner Bylsma et al. He also includes only six sonatas. I always thought that it was just an incomplete recording, but perhaps exists another reason.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 12:29:47 PM
My first disc was a Sony Vivarte with Anner Bylsma et al. He also includes only six sonatas. I always thought that it was just an incomplete recording, but perhaps exists another reason.

Well, those 6 are "Op 14", which was actually not a sanctioned (by Vivaldi) publication. The rest of them are those that the pirate publisher didn't get his hands on.  :D

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
Well, those 6 are "Op 14", which was actually not a sanctioned (by Vivaldi) publication. The rest of them are those that the pirate publisher didn't get his hands on.  :D

... those perverse Dutch publishers. God bless them!  :)

Antoine Marchand

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BTW, Christophe Coin has recorded a fair amount of cello concertos; those on Naïve and a CD with Hogwood and the AAM, almost without duplicated material.


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Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
BTW, Christophe Coin has recorded a fair ammount of cello concertos; those on Naïve and a double CD set with Hogwood and the AAM, almost without duplicated material.


I never realized he had cello concertos!  :o Oh, my poor wallet...
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: ukrneal on October 22, 2010, 12:45:33 PM
I never realized he had cello concertos!  :o Oh, my poor wallet...

:D  And sorry to say, they are quite good. IIRC, they were the first concertos composed for solo cello... :)

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Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
BTW, Christophe Coin has recorded a fair amount of cello concertos; those on Naïve and a CD with Hogwood and the AAM, almost without duplicated material.



Interesting. Hadn't seen that one. Hmm.... :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 12:50:54 PM
:D  And sorry to say, they are quite good. IIRC, they were the first concertos composed for solo cello... :)

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... and even some concertos for two cellos:


Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 12:51:28 PM
Interesting. Hadn't seen that one. Hmm.... :)

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I am listening to it right now. It's a disc of a calm beauty.

Well, Hogwood is not Antonioni, although this latter is quite civilized in the recordings for Naïve.

Gurn Blanston

Ha! I have all 3 of those! You may taunt me no longer, my Chilean friend. I also just picked up that Decca double... :D

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Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
I am listening to it right now. It's a disc of a calm beauty.

Well, Hogwood is not Antonioni, although this latter is quite civilized in the recordings for Naïve.

Calm beauty. I like that.  0:)

Do you have Kuijken (Wieland?) playing the cello de spalla disk? It is the Kuijken's Four Seasons, but they finish it up with a couple of the cello concerti. This is an interesting sounding instrument, more like a spacious viola than a cello. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 01:06:02 PM
Ha! I have all 3 of those! You may taunt me no longer, my Chilean friend. I also just picked up that Decca double... :D

That Decca is a single, Gurn [TT: 57.32].

Cello Carlo Antonio Testore, Milan, c. 1750

Cello piccolo, De Lannoy, Lille, 1768 [RV418 & 413]

Niceee!  :)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
That Decca is a single, Gurn [TT: 57.32].

Cello Carlo Antonio Testore, Milan, c. 1750

Cello piccolo, De Lannoy, Lille, 1768 [RV418 & 413]

Niceee!  :)

I can live with that. :)  Man, that does look nice. The only cello piccolo that I have (that I remember having) is Bylsma playing Schubert's Arpeggione Sonata. Lovely sound... :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
Do you have Kuijken (Wieland?) playing the cello de spalla disk? It is the Kuijken's Four Seasons, but they finish it up with a couple of the cello concerti. This is an interesting sounding instrument, more like a spacious viola than a cello. :)

This time you win  ;D, I don't have it.

Some time ago I decided not to purchase more Seasons, but after all that decision is not written on bronze.  :)

I have three complete sets of Bach's Cello Suites played on cellos da spalla, interestingly one of them is by Dmitry Badiarov, the violinist and luthier who has made all the cellos da spalla used in those recordings (including the Seasons).

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 22, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
Do you have Kuijken (Wieland?)

I forgot this: I don't know specific details of that recording (which I don't have), but it should be Sigiswald, who has been the intellectual motor -with Badiarov- of this revival of the cello da spalla, an instrument forgotten during centuries. Finally, this is an instrument for violinists, not for cellists or gambists.

SonicMan46

Quote from: ukrneal on October 22, 2010, 12:45:33 PM
I never realized he had cello concertos!  :o Oh, my poor wallet...

Well, Vivaldi will astound the 'uninitiated' - he wrote so MUCH!  When I was a member of the old BMG club, I picked up the 4-CD box below for less than $20 - probably now OOP?  These are quite good performances but would certainly be willing to replace them w/ another 'complete' set - but just one example of Antonio's tremendous output!


Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on October 22, 2010, 01:26:39 PM
This time you win  ;D, I don't have it.

Some time ago I decided not to purchase more Seasons, but after all that decision is not written on bronze.  :)

I have three complete sets of Bach's Cello Suites played on cellos da spalla, interestingly one of them is by Dmitry Badiarov, the violinist and luthier who has made all the cellos da spalla used in those recordings (including the Seasons).



I don't actually know where one could just run out and pick this up today, I have got it a long time ago. Still, any vow that includes "no more 4 Seasons" is bunk anyway! Why vow something that can't be done? :D 

I had to go back and read the liner notes to refresh my memory. Yes, you are perfectly correct, it is Sigi, the fiddler, who plays it, along with Badianov (in Winter). The accompanying solo concerto is RV 403 in D, and the sonata is RV 63, which is Op 1 #12 and also is the set of variations in d "La Follia". So a good variety of things on there. I can say that it isn't my favorite 'Seasons', but I do enjoy the very different sounds that are produced. :)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: SonicMan on October 22, 2010, 02:22:03 PM
Well, Vivaldi will astound the 'uninitiated' - he wrote so MUCH!  When I was a member of the old BMG club, I picked up the 4-CD box below for less than $20 - probably now OOP?  These are quite good performances but would certainly be willing to replace them w/ another 'complete' set - but just one example of Antonio's tremendous output!



Oh yeah, I have that one too! ::)  It is a very good set for anyone who prefers modern instruments. 'm thinking it can still be had quite reasonably if one hunts around a bit. :)

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Scarpia

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Now this one has a really nice cover photo.



(My picture disappeared so I found a better link for it.)


DavidW

Quote from: Scarpia on October 22, 2010, 02:52:07 PM
Now this one has a really nice cover photo.



That is alot better than the one that tripped and fell in the briar patch! :D