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Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« on: April 08, 2007, 01:37:36 PM »
Often derided (by Shostakovich for one) and the composer of the massive "overblown" "Ilya Muromets" symphony, I have rather a soft spot for Gliere.  I had the great good fortune to hear Ilya Muromets live in London a few years ago (the first UK performance of the complete work since 1912!) and greatly enjoyed it.  Ok, it is a sprawling epic but wonderfully atmospheric and moving in the doomed apotheosis of the final movement.  I like Symphony 2 also.

any other views on Gliere?
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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 02:00:07 PM »
I think he's pretty much a hack myself but hey if you dig the big Romantic Wagnerian works then maybe you'll like him.

Like Shostakovich should be saying anything, didn't he come up with such hack-jobs like the 2nd and 3rd symphonies?

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 02:06:15 PM »
Ilya Muromets was one of my first loves.  I listen to it all the time.  I am not sure if it is quality or nostalgia, but it is still one of my favorite pieces.  His other music is OK.  My favorite recording is Downes.
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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 02:08:58 PM »
Well I have the Chandos recordings of his Symphonies, and I find them to be very good.
Some chamber works also.
I think him a melodic and creative composer, that has many things to say, and gets rather little exposure.
But I am grateful for what there is.

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 02:09:32 PM »
Have his SQ 1 and 2, S.sextet, S.octet and violin concerto.
Love it all. Very russian and very romantic. Old fashioned?.Maybe. But I've russian blood and just looove romantic music. ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2007, 04:00:10 PM »
Just listened to the first two movements of Ilya Muromets (Donald Johanos/Slovak Radio SO). Wow!!!!!!!! Really sumptuous fun music; I especially loved the opening bars of the second movement, with the creepy strings.  8)

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 11:51:23 AM »
Know little of him.  But I believe he composed the Red Poppy, which I've enjoyed.

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 12:53:15 PM »
Know little of him.  But I believe he composed the Red Poppy, which I've enjoyed.

Do you have the full ballet?  Which recording?
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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2007, 01:06:52 PM »
Well I discovered I have the Naxos recording, and my listening notes said good music, not so good performance.

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2007, 01:11:23 PM »
Do you have the full ballet?  Which recording?

I do not.  I heard it on ClassicalJunk, a while ago.

http://www.classicaljunk.net/

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2007, 01:15:39 PM »
Well I discovered I have the Naxos recording, and my listening notes said good music, not so good performance.

That is exactly my opinion.  The sound is horrible and the playing completely laughable occasionally, but the first 5 minutes or so is great.  I was wishing Chandos would release a complete performance, but I doubt they are going to any time soon.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2007, 04:54:14 PM »
I haven't heard much of his music (yet), but I love his Concerto for Coloratura Soprano and Orchestra.  It is a gorgeous, melodic, highly romantic piece and it has an unusual choice of solo instrument for a concerto.  I will have to check out more of his music.

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2007, 05:04:23 PM »
Well I discovered I have the Naxos recording, and my listening notes said good music, not so good performance.
Last night, though, I was blown totally away by the Naxos discs of the Second and Third Symphonies. Unbelievable music! Wow. Everything about the music was stunning, the writing, the sheer epic epicness, the orchestration, the performances. And the Slovak Radio Symphony has never sounded better (they were almost world class!).

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2007, 09:31:11 PM »
Last night, though, I was blown totally away by the Naxos discs of the Second and Third Symphonies. Unbelievable music! Wow. Everything about the music was stunning, the writing, the sheer epic epicness, the orchestration, the performances. And the Slovak Radio Symphony has never sounded better (they were almost world class!).

If you say so Brian, then I will try them next to the Chandos.
Will let you know if I agree. :)

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2007, 09:33:02 PM »
That is exactly my opinion.  The sound is horrible and the playing completely laughable occasionally, but the first 5 minutes or so is great.  I was wishing Chandos would release a complete performance, but I doubt they are going to any time soon.

Its funny, that that was the exact thing I wrote, that after five minutes or so I switched it off, the unbearable sillyness of playing.
That's one big Naxos dud, as there ever was! ;D

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2007, 09:33:51 PM »
I do not.  I heard it on ClassicalJunk, a while ago.

http://www.classicaljunk.net/

Yeah, that's were it belongs, Classic Junk!

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2007, 02:58:17 AM »
And his harp concerto is one of the most beautiful
I know.
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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2007, 03:03:03 AM »
And his harp concerto is one of the most beautiful
I know.

True my friend it is beautiful!

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2007, 03:50:46 PM »
If you say so Brian, then I will try them next to the Chandos.
Will let you know if I agree. :)
Okay. I'd never heard anything by Gliere until the other evening when I tried the Naxos Symphonies 2 and 3, so if you judge a favored recording it may be on my shelf very soon.  :) 

Oh and the Slovak Radio Symphony actually has sounded better, on Kalman's operetta "Die Csardasfurstin". Forgot about that CD in my excitement  ;)

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Re: Reinhold Gliere (1875-1956)
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2007, 05:42:14 PM »
Just wanted to bump this thread up because I've been listening to Gliere again lately and still love his music.  :)  Ilya Muromets is ... well unique. In a sprawling, sumptuous, wondrous way.