I'm an American too!

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knight66

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Dave, remember, AND the house contents.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Dr. Dread

David,

You have to humor him.

knight66

Quote from: MN Dave on August 06, 2009, 06:44:13 AM
David,

You have to humor him.

I may add that to my strap line.

You better believe it.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Dr. Dread


knight66

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Quote from: MN Dave on August 06, 2009, 06:50:37 AM
VICTORY FOR ME!

'The time for self glorification is coming to a close.'

On whom did I recently use that line?

Mike

Edit, to get it right
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Dr. Dread

Quote from: knight on August 06, 2009, 06:54:53 AM
'Your time for self glorification will shortly come to an end.'

On whom did I recently use that line?

Mike



You have me down as New Mexico Dave.  >:(

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 05, 2009, 10:25:19 AM
I always thought it was strange, the term "American".

Why?

Sarge
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"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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knight66

I can harly type anything correctly; flagging now, even with the two liners!

I will change it.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Dr. Dread

Quote from: knight on August 06, 2009, 06:59:37 AM
I can harly type anything correctly; flagging now, even with the two liners!

I will change it.

Mike

0:)

DavidW

You're either an Ameri-can or an Ameri-can't.  Which is it? ;D

karlhenning

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knight66

Quote from: DavidW on August 06, 2009, 07:00:54 AM
You're either an Ameri-can or an Ameri-can't.  Which is it? ;D

Neither thanks.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

ChamberNut

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 06, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
Why?

Sarge

Because, you have two continents, North and South America, that cover all countries including all the countries that are a part of Central America.  So, we (everyone that lives in both continents) are by definition "Americans".  Yet, the USA is the only country that calls themself "Americans", exclusively.

Dr. Dread

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Because, you have two continents, North and South America, that cover all countries including all the countries that are a part of Central America.  So, we (everyone that lives in both continents) are by definition "Americans".  Yet, the USA is the only country that calls themself "Americans", exclusively.

We are the United States of AMERICA.

ChamberNut

Quote from: MN Dave on August 06, 2009, 09:44:19 AM
We are the United States of AMERICA.

OK, fine.  You have to admit that it is arrogant to just consider yourselves as American.  We (Canada) could just as easily be called the United Provinces of America, and call ourselves exclusively as American.

Dr. Dread

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2009, 09:50:09 AM
We (Canada) could just as easily be called the United Provinces of America, and call ourselves exclusively as American.

Too late.  ;D

Gabriel

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 05, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
Gracias.

In Mexico (where I learned my meager Spanish), Ser y Estar both mean "to be". Ser is a permanent condition, estar is a temporary condition. You are totally correct that I should have used the "we" form of ser (somos). But I have never seen 'estar' used in the way you show here, Carlos. For example:

Estoy bien - I am well, a temporary condition.

Soy un Tejano - I am a Texan - An unchangeable condition, since no matter if I go elsewhere, I will still be a Texan.

I am not arguing that you aren't correct, I am just confused...   :-\

8)


In fact, both are correct. The etymological origin of "estar" is the one Carlos said, and thus, as it is to "stand", it couldn't be but transitory. But in every part where Spanish is spoken, the duality ser/estar exists. For foreign people it can be quite a trouble, but I find it very accurate and sometimes, very useful.

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Because, you have two continents, North and South America, that cover all countries including all the countries that are a part of Central America.  So, we (everyone that lives in both continents) are by definition "Americans".  Yet, the USA is the only country that calls themself "Americans", exclusively.

Well, that's the problem for people from the USA, with such a long and descriptive official country name. Our Literature Nobel Prize 1945, the Chilean Gabriela Mistral, wrote that "en país sin nombre voy a morir" (I shall die in a country without name). And she died in New York in 1957.

I had an English acquaintance who thought that the name "South America" had its origin in the fact that there was an original America (the USA) and all the countries to the south of it were called "South America". She clearly ignored the notion of continent applied to this Western Hemisphere. (And, what was even more remarkable, is that even though I told her that following her theory the only country that would be in "North America" would be Canada, she insisted in her theory!)

Anyway, we Chileans are "the southernmost America". ;)

ChamberNut

USA, it's not too late to change your name....Burma did it!  ;D

What could be an alternative name for your country?  8)

arkiv


Dr. Dread

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 06, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
USA, it's not too late to change your name....Burma did it!  ;D

What could be an alternative name for your country?  8)

Fred