Interesting romantic composers

[Henk]

Let me shortly explain what I mean with magnanimity.

If I say in my previous post "an aesthetic description even" I mean that I have the magnanimity to try to think out such a description. It's not a sign of immodesty at all.
My "boasting around" can also be regarded as magnanimity (and also reversely). I try to understand Nietzsche, I try to do good things for humanity, I try leading humanity, among others, in the good direction, I try to distinguish good music from bad music. And I think I'll succeed in those things. This is all without any self-interest. In the contrary it's in my expense.

"magnanimity in the victory" (Nietzsche in Gay Science) this resonates in my head these days.

Henk

[karlhenning]

Look, I don't give rat's ass what Nietzsche has said.

The rats of the world thank you.

[Fëanor]

Well, they've never played Messiaen at my church (and never will!) 

that'd be nice, though...

Gads!! Messiaen at my church??  Not bloody likely, and not just because Messiaen was a Catholic mystic and my church is Presbyterian. 

[monafam]

Not to get too far off topic (might be too late) in regards to Messiaen and Church music...

I am Catholic, but I couldn't imagine it either in most parishes.  As beautiful as much Church music can be, I couldn't imagine how my kids would react if Mass was pushing 2 hrs (some of those are pretty long).   0:)

[Chaszz]

The rats of the world thank you.

Have you polled these rats?

[Chaszz]

Nietzsche had no problem with Wagner's using music to create theatre in the early days, he even praised Wagner's music dramas to the skies as a modern analogue of the Greek synthesis of theatre, music and dance in the ancient Attic tragedies. However when Wagner succeeded and became fashionable, and both the bourgeousie and royalty began flocking to Bayreuth, Nietzsche grew uncomfortable. Parsifal, with what Nietzsche saw as its Christian content, sealed the deal, and the philosopher became Wagner's outright detractor. Mixed in with this was the two men's ruptured close friendship whcih neither really got over. I'm trying to suggest that Nietzsche beought all kinds of baggage to this later judgment and is not the most disinterested judge of Wagner. Although Henk does make the case that from his point of view Wagner's music is "bad," I will take one bar of Forest Murmurs over the complete works of Nietzsche and Henk combined and raised to the sixth exponent. "Bad!" To call such sublime music "bad" is to muddle the English language itself to the point where it has no meaning. 

[greg]

Gads!! Messiaen at my church??  Not bloody likely, and not just because Messiaen was a Catholic mystic and my church is Presbyterian. 

Yeah, a Baptist church would probably be just as unlikely as Presbyterian...
it'd be interesting to hear it in a Pentecostal church, though...

[Ten thumbs]

To answer the original question, Medtner was specifically influenced by Beethoven. He also had a high regard for D. Scarlatti.

I see Wanderer has already pointed to the above. However, Rachmaninov falls into the same camp, as does Scriabin. These composers follow the line down from Chopin and not Wagner. I would also recommend Janacek who may be able to help you overcome your prejudice against opera. Drama is one of the highest art forms.