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Quote from: amw on June 07, 2020, 04:46:30 AMAlso here's a short list of preferences from meTop 5Anda (either one, slight preference for DG)Kempff/EMI (not DG)Pollini (either one)UgorskiZachariasOther recommendationsArrauBiss/Wigmore Hall LiveCianiCollardCortotHaefligerHoughUchidaZhu
Quote from: Jo498 on June 10, 2020, 03:22:49 AMThe Romantic Generation is overall more difficult than The classical style, I'd say. But it is very different in such that it has almost nontechnical chapters that are closer to general cultural history (Mountains and Song cycles) and some very technical ones (on Chopin etudes or so). So as a layman one can skip (most of) the latter ones and still profit from the earlier ones whereas in The classical style one tends to need scores and a pretty good familiarity with the respective pieces to follow the argument at all.
Quote from: vers la flamme on June 09, 2020, 04:17:05 PMMaybe I just haven't heard the right recordings, but for some reason I don't put Davidsbündlertänze in anywhere near the same category as, say, Carnaval or Kreisleriana. It just doesn't seem to be as coherent, or as good, as those other two works. Does anyone want to show me the light with a recording that's so good, I won't be able to deny its greatness? For what it's worth, the ones I've heard include Perahia, Hewitt, and Zacharias.
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on June 10, 2020, 02:40:40 PMFor Schumann the foundation of my collection is Kempff and Pollini, although there are others I like a lot, such as Perhia and Egorov, who have been more recent discoveries.
Quote from: vers la flamme on June 10, 2020, 03:23:36 PMPollini, eh? I have his C major Fantasy and don't much remember it, but the Schubert Wanderer it's coupled with is damn good. I'll have to give it another listen. So he did a pretty good Davidsbundlertänze, then? I've been thinking of picking up that Kempff 4CD, as I love his pianism, but I'm not sure whether I would find it well-suited to my personal tastes in Schumann.
Quote from: vers la flamme on June 10, 2020, 02:17:42 AMWow, what a resource—thanks! I intend to buy this book sometime, it actually looks like somewhat of an easier read than Rosen's companion book The Classical Style, which I have but have not yet been able to make my way through it. I'll have to check out Anda, if I can find it. As for Kempff, how do you feel about his DG recording? I have been vaguely considering that Kempff/Schumann box set.
Quote from: Mandryka on June 10, 2020, 06:29:16 AMSurprised not to see Gieseking in this list. Did you ever hear Stephen Osborne?
Quote from: vers la flamme on June 10, 2020, 02:24:37 PMThanks for the warning! I find The Classical Style a bit of a challenging read due to the density of technical and theoretical discussion, and I was suspecting no less from The Romantic Generation. I read through the "Mountains and Song Cycles" chapter this morning and found it fascinating. I hope to track down the book and read it in full eventually.
Quote from: amw on June 10, 2020, 06:26:09 PMIf you have institutional access, you can read it online here: https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/cn69m447cIf you don't, it may be worth buying, or there may be a full PDF available from somewhere. Unfortunately I suspect sharing the entire book on my dropbox would get my account suspended.
Quote from: Ratliff on June 10, 2020, 03:27:19 PMI feel like we've been down this road before, maybe on another web site. Kempff's Papillons was the recording that opened my eyes to Schumann. After that I've never heard a Kempff Schumann recording that didn't impress me.After listening to a Richter recording of Papillons I spent 10 years thinking I hated Schumann. I later discovered I hate Richter.
Quote from: amw on June 10, 2020, 06:26:09 PMI remember not being especially impressed with Kempff on DG (used to have MP3s of that box) but no longer remember why. I'll revisit it and see what I think now.I do not remember what I thought of Gieseking (believe there's only the one recording...) although I have presumably listened to it at some point. I will also get back to you with my thoughts on the Osborne, which I believe you sent me a while back—have listened to it 3 times apparently, most recently in November, but did not take any notes.If you have institutional access, you can read it online here: https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/cn69m447cIf you don't, it may be worth buying, or there may be a full PDF available from somewhere. Unfortunately I suspect sharing the entire book on my dropbox would get my account suspended.
Quote from: Brian on June 09, 2020, 06:27:13 AMThank you, amw - I just saved the big list file in case the forum crashes again soon...
Quote from: Mandryka on July 26, 2021, 06:20:46 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/v/iK_9EZ3uh-k&ab_channel=JohnClifford
Quote from: Iota on July 26, 2021, 10:04:39 AMThanks for posting that. I'm not a big fan of non-modern ballet really, and found 10 or so minutes of that was enough for one session, but it was nonetheless interesting. An idea with great potential I think.
Quote from: val on February 13, 2013, 01:01:08 AMAfter all this years, Geza Anda still remains my favorite. But Karl Engel has here one of his most inspired performances. And there is Gieseking in his version of 1947 with an imagination unique but also a very bad sound.What a pity Yves Nat didn't record this beautiful work.
Quote from: Mandryka on January 09, 2023, 05:32:31 AMNew release. Oppitz is possessed by the ghost of Kempff.
Quote from: Todd on January 09, 2023, 05:46:07 AMThat would require Oppitz to entirely change his playing style. Interesting.
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