Can you recommend me symphonies in which the Trumpet is very important?

Started by IlikeMahler, August 29, 2009, 04:20:52 PM

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PerfectWagnerite

Copland: Sym. #3
Mahler: Sym. #3, #9
Janacek: Sinfonietta
Shostakovich: Sym. #7

Joe Barron

Quote from: Jezetha on September 01, 2009, 08:56:20 AM
Because the topic starter already did so, Joe... ;)

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Oh, I remember now: Bach' Brandenburg Concerto No. 2. You can't go wrong with Bach's Brandenburg Concerto No. 2. Not a symphony, but a great trumpet part.

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Joe Barron

Haydn's Trumpet Concerto is the greatest in the repertoire, but I think IlikeMahler is looking more for big-orchestra grandeur.

Cato

The Khachaturian Symphony #3 uses 18 trumpets!

A potboiler of course, but a fun - and loud - potboiler!  If the old Stokowski world premiere recording is still available, listen to that one!
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DavidW

Some of those renaissance era works performed on modern brass might fit the bill. :)  They play those kind of works all the time on this special brass program on NPR.

MishaK

Sibelius 2 for the trumpet fanfares in the last movement.
Not really a symphony, but Scriabin's Poeme de'l Extase has a huge trumpet solo.
There is an alternate version of Berlioz's Symphonie fantastique, which has an obbligato for solo cornet following the main melody of the second movement. It is featured, e.g. on Abbado's CSO recording.
Bruckner 7 for the solo in the Scherzo.
Schumann's 3rd "Rhenish", the third movement.

Dana

Quote from: O Mensch on October 06, 2009, 07:26:24 PMThere is an alternate version of Berlioz's Symphonie fantastique, which has an obbligato for solo cornet following the main melody of the second movement. It is featured, e.g. on Abbado's CSO recording.

Where was that found?

jochanaan

Quote from: Dana on October 07, 2009, 03:13:50 PM
Where was that found?
The cornet part is actually included in small print in the published score, at least in my Dover reprint.  A note from the editors says the part was added by Berlioz later.  I've heard it both "with" and "without," and I tend to prefer that movement without the cornet part.
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MishaK

Quote from: jochanaan on October 08, 2009, 09:02:23 PM
The cornet part is actually included in small print in the published score, at least in my Dover reprint.  A note from the editors says the part was added by Berlioz later.  I've heard it both "with" and "without," and I tend to prefer that movement without the cornet part.

What he said. It's a later addition and is printed as an optional part in most scores. Most conductors do it without. If it's done well (as on the Abbado recording) it can be an interesting alternative.

jowcol

While not "symphonic" or even "classical" per se, I'd recommend Miles Davis  Sketches of Spain very strongly.  Some very creative arrangements- some of which were too difficult for the "classical musicians" hired for the album. The similar Porgy and Bess album did not work as well, IMO, although the Oh Doctor Jesus manages to have a very confessional blues trumpet going against a cool-but-dry arrangement that Stravinsky would have liked.
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MishaK

Quote from: O Mensch on October 11, 2009, 05:15:32 PM
What he said. It's a later addition and is printed as an optional part in most scores. Most conductors do it without. If it's done well (as on the Abbado recording) it can be an interesting alternative.

Checking through my notes, Charles Mackerras also made a very fine recording with the cornet obbligato in the second movement.

RJR

It's not a symphony, but there's some great trumpet moments in Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra.

Szykneij

Quote from: RJR on February 02, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
It's not a symphony, but there's some great trumpet moments in Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra.

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RJR

Quote from: Szykniej on February 02, 2011, 05:14:48 PM
The op left the board in September of 2009. He must have gotten tired of waiting for your answer.
I know. I just arrived at the end of 2010. But I've noticed that many threads go on for years.

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karlhenning

Quote from: jochanaan on October 08, 2009, 09:02:23 PM
The cornet part is actually included in small print in the published score, at least in my Dover reprint.  A note from the editors says the part was added by Berlioz later.  I've heard it both "with" and "without," and I tend to prefer that movement without the cornet part.

You remind me (or, rather, this old post reminds me) to check my Norton critical edition of the score for any enlightenment viz. the cornet à pistons . . . .