The right way to go for Chopin's Piano Concerti?

[Bunny]

The picture isn't very good; translation, please.  0:)

[Mark]

Nice way of putting it. Can I license that from you?

With pleasure!

[Botafogo]

The picture isn't very good; translation, please.  0:)

Chopin
Piano Concertos
Grigory Ginzburg
(I don't get to read)
Leningrad Symphony (?) Orchestra.

Kindest regards.

[orbital]

Chopin
Piano Concertos
Grigory Ginzburg
(I don't get to read)
Leningrad Symphony (?) Orchestra.

Kindest regards.

Amazing 

Except it does not really exist. I was bored a little   

[Botafogo]

Amazing 

Except it does not really exist. I was bored a little   

Just curious: what's the word below Grigory Ginzburg?

Rgds.

[orbital]

Markevitch 

[Botafogo]

Markevitch 

Dream team.

Rgds.

[lukeottevanger]

Is there something I don't know? I keep thinking Gilels when I think about Chopin PC1 - and yet no one has so much as breathed his name on this thread yet. Is it thought of as that bad a recording?    Is it because Ormandy is involved? (He doesn't do so badly, I think!). It's always sounded pretty special to my ears - Gilels works a certain magic here to make it much more than 'another great concerto performance'. I may be reading more into it - when I was a boy my dad would rhapsodise to me about the first time he heard that LP and years later, warped and unplayable, it still had a place in his LP collection. But trying to put that aside, it still seems at least to rank among the better recordings I've heard.

Am I that misguided?

[BachQ]

Is there something I don't know? I keep thinking Gilels when I think about Chopin PC1 - and yet no one has so much as breathed his name on this thread yet. Is it thought of as that bad a recording?    Is it because Ormandy is involved? (He doesn't do so badly, I think!). It's always sounded pretty special to my ears - Gilels works a certain magic here to make it much more than 'another great concerto performance'. I may be reading more into it - when I was a boy my dad would rhapsodise to me about the first time he heard that LP and years later, warped and unplayable, it still had a place in his LP collection. But trying to put that aside, it still seems at least to rank among the better recordings I've heard.

Am I that misguided?

Does Luke always talk to himself ? 

[lukeottevanger]

Does Luke always talk to himself ? 

Who you talking to, D?

Although, yes, I do get that feeling very often. The essence of omphaloskepsis, you know....

[George]

Is there something I don't know? I keep thinking Gilels when I think about Chopin PC1 - and yet no one has so much as breathed his name on this thread yet. Is it thought of as that bad a recording?    Is it because Ormandy is involved? (He doesn't do so badly, I think!). It's always sounded pretty special to my ears - Gilels works a certain magic here to make it much more than 'another great concerto performance'. I may be reading more into it - when I was a boy my dad would rhapsodise to me about the first time he heard that LP and years later, warped and unplayable, it still had a place in his LP collection. But trying to put that aside, it still seems at least to rank among the better recordings I've heard.

Am I that misguided?

Nope, I plan to snatch that one up the next time I see it used. Thanks. 

[SimonGodders]

Is there something I don't know? I keep thinking Gilels when I think about Chopin PC1 - and yet no one has so much as breathed his name on this thread yet. Is it thought of as that bad a recording?    Is it because Ormandy is involved? (He doesn't do so badly, I think!). It's always sounded pretty special to my ears - Gilels works a certain magic here to make it much more than 'another great concerto performance'. I may be reading more into it - when I was a boy my dad would rhapsodise to me about the first time he heard that LP and years later, warped and unplayable, it still had a place in his LP collection. But trying to put that aside, it still seems at least to rank among the better recordings I've heard.

Am I that misguided?

He's also on Melodiya with Kondrashin conducting from 1962

[George]

He's also on Melodiya with Kondrashin conducting from 1962

Saw that box this morning for $150. 

[SimonGodders]

Saw that box this morning for $150. 

Crikey, certainly didn't pay that much for it! (£25 off ebay)

[George]

Crikey, certainly didn't pay that much for it! (£25 off ebay)

[insert envy emoticon here]

[SimonGodders]

[insert envy emoticon here]

I always buy my Russian stuff from Victor Dublier, George. He's still got both sets at the same price I bought them last year. I'm sure he ships all over the world...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GILELS-5CD-BOX-Art-of-Gilels-MELODIYA-NEW_W0QQitemZ110036365651QQihZ001QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem

The Chopin PC1 is in this box:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GILELS-Recitals-of-1962-MELODIYA-5CD-BOX-NEW_W0QQitemZ110022678186QQihZ001QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem

[George]

I always buy my Russian stuff from Victor Dublier, George. He's still got both sets at the same price I bought them last year. I'm sure he ships all over the world...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GILELS-5CD-BOX-Art-of-Gilels-MELODIYA-NEW_W0QQitemZ110036365651QQihZ001QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem

The Chopin PC1 is in this box:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GILELS-Recitals-of-1962-MELODIYA-5CD-BOX-NEW_W0QQitemZ110022678186QQihZ001QQcategoryZ307QQcmdZViewItem

How's the rest of the box?

George, who is already so poor he can't even pay attention at this point. 

[Drasko]

Isn't that Chopin PC 1 with Kondrashin also in Brilliant box?

Anyhow here is the single disc, and you can listen to whole thing online.

http://www.russiandvd.com/store/product.asp?sku=35614&genreid=

[sidoze]

Is there something I don't know? I keep thinking Gilels when I think about Chopin PC1 - and yet no one has so much as breathed his name on this thread yet. Is it thought of as that bad a recording?    Is it because Ormandy is involved? (He doesn't do so badly, I think!). It's always sounded pretty special to my ears - Gilels works a certain magic here to make it much more than 'another great concerto performance'. I may be reading more into it - when I was a boy my dad would rhapsodise to me about the first time he heard that LP and years later, warped and unplayable, it still had a place in his LP collection. But trying to put that aside, it still seems at least to rank among the better recordings I've heard.

Am I that misguided?

I haven't heard this one but used to have the Gilels / Kondrashin in the Brilliant box. What can I say? It's just not what I want to hear in this work, though no doubt it's very good. I should send you the Sokolov recording for curiosity's sake.

Of course I can't play the Chopin PC 1, so for all I know, Gilels' could be very special indeed.

(the above in no way passes Zimerman's solo plodding as fit for measure)

And thanks for the new word: omphaloskepsis

[SimonGodders]

How's the rest of the box?

George, who is already so poor he can't even pay attention at this point. 

I'ld like to give you a definitive answer, but bought both sets about this time last year and still haven't got through all discs, maybe half

I have enjoyed all that I have listened to thus far (great Beethoven, partic. WoO 80 Variations and a gorgeous Chopin Ballade in G minor), but then I am a Gilels 'aficionado'...

The aforementioned Chopin PC1 I haven't listened to, despite my love of Chopin, never been particularly struck by his orchestral music. Perhaps I'll give it a whizz in a jiffy...