Terry Riley (b. 1935)

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Quote from: torut on May 04, 2014, 03:31:53 PM
Thank you. Looks nice but yes, it is OOP at Amazon.

According to websites (Riley's, Wikipedia), these are the other works for instruments in just intonation. I don't know how saxophone can be tuned in just intonation but the audio samples of Chanting the Light of Foresight sound nice.

Quando Cosas Malas Caen del Cielo ~ National Steel Guitar in Just Intonation
Moonshine Sonata ~ National Steel Guitar in Just Intonation and Korg Triton Synthesizer
Shri Camel for solo electronic organ tuned in just intonation and modified by digital delay
Chanting the Light of Foresight, with Rova Saxophone Quartet in just intonation

I don't think all of Chanting the Light of Foresight is in JI.

I don't think recordings of the two pieces for National Steel have released.

Shri Camel is amazing, one of my all time favorite TR albums. The first one I heard when it came out.


torut

Quote from: 7/4 on May 04, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
I don't think all of Chanting the Light of Foresight is in JI.
According to this review, just intonation is used in the 1st movement (The Tuning Path ~ Medb's Blues) and the 4th movement (Ferdia's Death Chant). Playing saxophone in just tuning seems very difficult.
Quote from: Bill AlvesIn order to get the saxophonists to play the just intervals precisely, Riley recorded the pitches with his old Prophet 5 synthesizer as a reference. The players of Rova hold the vibratoless tones remarkably steady and precisely in tune. In the liner notes, Rova's Larry Ochs refers to the "difficulties involved in mastering the altered tunings (requiring false fingerings, jaw manipulations, superhuman lungs and lips of steel)."

Quote from: 7/4 on May 04, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
I don't think recordings of the two pieces for National Steel have released.

Shri Camel is amazing, one of my all time favorite TR albums. The first one I heard when it came out.
I am listening to Shri Camel now. It is mesmerizing.

milk

I listened to New Harp of Albion again today. I think this is enchanting music. I'm going to check out Well Tuned Piano and compare.

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Quote from: milk on May 06, 2014, 04:22:23 PM
I listened to New Harp of Albion again today. I think this is enchanting music. I'm going to check out Well Tuned Piano and compare.

Both in JI, but quite different. La Monte did a couple of things to his piano for this piece.

1.There's only one string for each note.
2. an assistant sets a mute inside of the piano so only the notes in the chord he's playing sustain when he holds the sustain pedal is down. (or something like that)
3. the piano is tuned down so B=60 cycles.

La Monte doesn't play like Terry.

torut

It is good that they are quite different. I have been wanting to hear The Well-Tuned Piano for a long time, but currently I am busy with Riley, Dennis Johnson, and some classics.

Listening to this now. It feels so good.

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milk

Quote from: 7/4 on May 06, 2014, 05:14:04 PM
Both in JI, but quite different. La Monte did a couple of things to his piano for this piece.

1.There's only one string for each note.
2. an assistant sets a mute inside of the piano so only the notes in the chord he's playing sustain when he holds the sustain pedal is down. (or something like that)
3. the piano is tuned down so B=60 cycles.

La Monte doesn't play like Terry.
Thanks for this. It's helpful.
I'm curious if it will agree with me. I can't easily account for why certain composers touch me. I like Riley's sensibility very much.

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Only one string for each note changes the timber of the instrument, La Monte reinvented the sound of the piano. The other differences are subtle.

amw

I have been planning to listen to The Well-Tuned Piano for a while but it's hard to find 5 distraction-free hours :|

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It's been a long time since I've listened to the whole thing.  8)

EigenUser

Quote from: amw on May 07, 2014, 03:50:58 AM
I have been planning to listen to The Well-Tuned Piano for a while but it's hard to find 5 distraction-free hours :|
I've heard parts of it. I'd rather first find time to hear Feldman's 2nd SQ. Then again, I don't really have an interest in such a long piece. My attention span is too short.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

milk

Quote from: EigenUser on May 07, 2014, 05:33:14 AM
I've heard parts of it. I'd rather first find time to hear Feldman's 2nd SQ. Then again, I don't really have an interest in such a long piece. My attention span is too short.
The 2nd SQ is marvelous. And for Philip Guston as well. I can't do it all at once but I get into the mindset and then try to stay with it over a few days on my commutes.
Just thinking about it now...is that part of the concept and what it does? It's a challenge to think, "will I ever have that much time?" Why or why not...

milk

I'm halfway though Well-tuned piano and I'm loving it. I'm surprised it's available as a free podcast only. I mean, it's the best way for me but I wonder if people value this piece of music.   

torut

Quote from: milk on May 09, 2014, 01:25:18 AM
I'm halfway though Well-tuned piano and I'm loving it. I'm surprised it's available as a free podcast only. I mean, it's the best way for me but I wonder if people value this piece of music.
I am willing to pay for CD or mp3, but not $2500 for a used copy. :) I don't understand why so many recordings of modern (20th c.) music are unavailable while distributing music is very easy nowadays.

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Quote from: torut on May 09, 2014, 07:44:58 AM
I am willing to pay for CD or mp3, but not $2500 for a used copy. :) I don't understand why so many recordings of modern (20th c.) music are unavailable while distributing music is very easy nowadays.

The WTP has been floating around the net for a while and I don't mean mp3 files.

torut

Terry Riley's "In C" for Solo Trombone
Performed & Live electronic fx coded by Bryant Smith

https://www.youtube.com/v/A-k2i-lGSZI

Quote from: Bryant SmithI programmed Ableton and Max4Live to simulate 32 accompanying trombones. Each "musician" is programmed to repeat the leader after a random number of eighth notes. The musicians are dispersed in space and in volume. This happens on the fly, and the leader can hear the result in real time and react to it. With this software, I make an attempt at Terry Riley's "In C."

The warm tone of the trombone makes the music easy to the ears (for me). It sounds almost symphonic. If there is a wind instruments only version of In C played softly, I would like to hear.

milk

Quote from: torut on May 11, 2014, 08:13:52 PM
Terry Riley's "In C" for Solo Trombone
Performed & Live electronic fx coded by Bryant Smith

https://www.youtube.com/v/A-k2i-lGSZI

The warm tone of the trombone makes the music easy to the ears (for me). It sounds almost symphonic. If there is a wind instruments only version of In C played softly, I would like to hear.
Cool!!!!

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torut

Quote from: 7/4 on December 29, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
Lazy Afternoon Among the Crocodiles & Diamond Fiddle Language - duets for synthesizer and double bass with Stefano Scodanibbio.

I listened to this for the first time and really like it, but it is too short. (Just 26 min.) Is it all improvised?
I love this kind of music with spontaneous feelings, which can be found in a few good free improvisation music.

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torut

I found this video of Terry Riley talking about Stefano Scodanibbio and Lazy Afternoon Among the Crocodiles.
http://vimeo.com/90597005