Repeating Eugene Onegin's Mistake

[Papageno]

I remember just a little over a year ago I met a young girl (around 18, my age then) and chatted, she talked to me about aesthetics - referring to make-up and clothes, and her summer plans to do supers-ports, and I talked to her about aesthetics and Kant while she nodded shyly.  She was quite big, had a provincial and shy face and often did sudden compulsive movements that startled me.  She was completely unattractive to me, and yet it was quite obvious to me that I had taken her mind.  She asked for my number, which I didn't hesitate to give to her and from then on called me almost every day, I spoke to her very kindly and appeared concerned.  I remember one instance when I asked her over the phone where she lived and she replied "okay, see you then."  "Wait, where do you live?" I repeated, "Great, I'll see you there".  I imagine her father must have been in the room and she felt uncomfortable; an uncouth man in a dirty under-shirt, as I saw him take his daughter off on his motorbike that day.  So I avoided this girl, I said I was busy and another time, etc.  I see that I was young, and stupid back then, as I should have taken that girl and reformed her into a better person, who will do that for her now, probably no one.  Merely out of unconditional love (the love of a saint) I could have changed her path into a profound one, ah what errors I have made...

[karlhenning]

I see that I was young, and stupid back then, as I should have taken that girl and reformed her into a better person, who will do that for her now, probably no one.  Merely out of unconditional love (the love of a saint) I could have changed her path into a profound one, ah what errors I have made...

Even this is all about you, isn't it?  Perhaps that young lady has become a better person, in spite of the Grand Tragedy that you weren't the Messiah to Redeem her.

Maybe, she is a better person than your self-serving narrative here implies.  Perhaps she is indeed, a better person than you.

[Papageno]

Even this is all about you, isn't it?  Perhaps that young lady has become a better person, in spite of the Grand Tragedy that you weren't the Messiah to Redeem her.

Maybe, she is a better person than your self-serving narrative here implies.  Perhaps she is indeed, a better person than you.

I'd be very happy if that were true.  Suggesting that she is a good person, I can tell you that she had no good style about herself, confidence nor taste, let alone education, compared to myself at the time at least.  I am quite sure that if I were a fraction more mature I would have taken her under my love and reshaped her into a richer entity.

[Mamageno]

O Lord, save her from my son!

[DavidW]

Papageno reminds me of that guy from Seven.

[Papageno]

Papageno reminds me of that guy from Seven.

What's that, the mystery number?  I wonder why Waterhouse always has seven women, but we all know that he was over 300 years late at what he did.

[DavidW]

What's that, the mystery number?  I wonder why Waterhouse always has seven women, but we all know that he was over 300 years late at what he did.

I mean the crazy serial killer in the movie.

On the subway today, a man came up to me to start a conversation. He made small talk, a lonely man talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head hurt from his banality. I almost didn't notice it had happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, and I couldn't stop laughing.

[Papageno]

I mean the crazy serial killer in the movie.

"LOL" 

[DavidW]

"LOL" 

Do you ever find your head hurting from listening to the banality of others talking?

[karlhenning]

I couldn't find a pair of matched socks this morning.

[Papageno]

Do you ever find your head hurting from listening to the banality of others talking?

Ahh- you can't believe how often!  So be careful, pretty boy.

I couldn't find a pair of matched socks this morning.

That's... nice to know...  

[Josquin des Prez]

The father seems to be as bad as the son.

[Scarpia]

I see that I was young, and stupid back then, as I should have taken that girl and reformed her into a better person, who will do that for her now, probably no one.

I agree with others who find the suggestion that a narcissistic, self-obsessed weasel such as yourself could reform anyone into a better person utterly absurd.  

[Papageno]

I agree with others who find the suggestion that a narcissistic, self-obsessed weasel such as yourself could reform anyone into a better person utterly absurd.  

I didn't say i could reform anyone, did I say I could reform anyone?  No tell me, did I?  Then where did you read that from?
I only said I could have reformed her

[Scarpia]

I didn't say i could reform anyone, did I say I could reform anyone?  No tell me, did I?  Then where did you read that from?
I only said I could have reformed her

"Anyone" means any person at all, not "everyone."  My statement was that it is absurd to believe that there is any person at all, a single person, no matter how pathetic, anywhere in the world that you could "reform."   Your claim that you could reform this individual is therefore absurd, in my view.

[Papageno]

"Anyone" means any person at all, not "everyone."  My statement was that it is absurd to believe that there is any person at all, a single person, no matter how pathetic, anywhere in the world that you could "reform."   Your claim that you could reform this individual is therefore absurd, in my view.

Explain it to me, for I must be really stupid being unable to understand your point of view.

[Scarpia]

Explain it to me, for I must be really stupid being unable to understand your point of view.

My point of view, based only on what I see posted on this board, is that you are only interested in yourself, and the idea that you would help another person is inconceivable.

[Herman]

I remember just a little over a year ago I met a young girl (around 18, my age then) and chatted, she talked to me about aesthetics

 I see that I was young, and stupid back then, as I should have taken that girl and reformed her into a better person, who will do that for her now, probably no one.

So what would you have said if she'd asked you what 'pizzicati' were?

You may find this hard to believe but  you're still pretty "young and stupid" in your relentless narcissism.

[Papageno]

What's the point of a relationship if one doesn't help the other.  I have altered my most recent lovers to the best, sure.  I introduced my most recent significant other to classical music, philosophy and have made her a richer person, perhaps very little, but I've managed - judging that she had already drawn her paths, and is 7 years my senior.  I could certainly have reformed the other girl in question more significantly as she had not even drawn out her path and was lost.  I can certainly alter soft, re-workable clay more significantly than rigid clay - my last mistress in question.

So what would you have said if she'd asked you what 'pizzicati' were?
You may find this hard to believe but  you're still pretty "young and stupid" in your relentless narcissism.

Ahh- darling, darling, I never said that I'm entirely mature, I just noted my improvements since last year.
Narcissus!? By all means, I'm an average person, just like everybody else, and I'm sure of that.

[Josquin des Prez]

What's the point of a relationship if one doesn't help the other.

The point of a relationship is to lead to a union which is the prerequisite for building a family. Your own selfish personal whims need not apply.