Bach Cantata bwv 82

Started by DavidW, September 16, 2009, 08:37:21 AM

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Favorite in print recording mentioned on the thread?

Jan van der Crabben, S. Kuijken, La Petite Bande (2005)
3 (27.3%)
Peter Kooy, Herreweghe,  La Chapelle Royale Paris
1 (9.1%)
Lorraine Hunt Lieberson, Smith, Emmanuel Music Orchestra
2 (18.2%)
Hans Hotter, Bernard, Philharmonia Orchestra
1 (9.1%)
Stephan Macleod, Milnes, Montreal Baroque Orchestra
0 (0%)
Max van Egmond, Brüggen, Baroque Orchestra
0 (0%)
Klaus Mertens, S. Kuijken, La Petite Bande
2 (18.2%)
Janet Baker, Marriner, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields
1 (9.1%)
Matthias Goerne, Norrington, Salzburg Camerata Academica
1 (9.1%)
Sanford Sylvan, Sarasa Ensemble
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Antoine Marchand

#20
Hey, David... You have forgotten the version recommended by me: Klaus Mertens - Sigiswald Kuijken - La Petite Bande - Accent Records.  :-\ Anyway, it's not very important because not many people buy Accent discs.

P.S.: Will you buy the winner?  :D

DavidW

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on September 27, 2009, 06:52:55 AM
Hey, David... You have forgotten the version recommended by me: Klaus Mertens - Sigiswald Kuijken - La Petite Bande - Accent Records.  :-\ Anyway, it's not very important because not many people buy Accent discs.

P.S.: Will you buy the winner?  :D

That was my bad, I saw Mertens and thought Koopman instead of Kuijken. :-[

It's fixed now. :)

Yes I will buy the winner. :)

hautbois

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on September 26, 2009, 08:47:54 AM
Another marvelous oboist is Marcel Ponseele; the guy is a true snake charmer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/EgQz899oW_8

Amazing isn't he? Just one of the many amazing oboists around....If you like the baroque oboe, check out the playing of Paul Goodwin, Hans Peter Westermann, Paul Dombrecht, Alfredo Bernardini, Paolo Grazzi amongst others...truly masters of their trade...

For a an imcomparable recording of the easter oratorio sinfonia, find Han de Vries on modern instruments...to die for....

Howard

hautbois

You are in for a treat!

I uploaded these a year ago and didn't know that they were still there. Amazing! Following are 3 amazing oboists playing the adagio from the Easter Oratorio.

Han de Vries
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=U2ZWC6FQLNVY

Gordon Hunt
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=I4ZR81P1JPKB

Francois Leleux
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=GJOQCL1D36HP

Enjoy!

knight66

#24
I have about half a dozen versions of this piece. One that has not so far been mentioned is the arrangement Bach made for soprano and flute along with the strings. There is a beautiful EMI recording with Barbara Hendricks. I once junked this disc in a bout of HIPitis. I then found I regretted it so much, that I bought it again and it gives me a lot of pleasure.

It would not however be my first choice. I would vote

Janet Baker
Hunt Lieberson
Fischer Dieskau
Hotter
Hendricks
Gorne
Scholl
Shirley Quirk


The latter who is a favourite singer of mine, provides the right timbre, the soft grained sadness and resignation, but in several phrases he literally has difficulty getting his voice round the notes, a surprise.

As to Gorne, I have kept this disc, but for my taste it is undercharacterised and penny plain in comparison with the wealth of expression that the others, Hendricks excepted, bring to it.

The central lullaby requires a special intimacy and the arias move through heaviness of spirit to sheer joy. All the top four singers have this in spades, the best of Gorne lies in this particular aria. I would not part with any of them. As to the sound of the orchestra, well, it is a bit muddy in Hotter, possibly too full in DFD's recording and lacking in lift for Baker.

With DFD, the EMI pairing provides an excoriating and penetrating version of BWV56, 'Ich will den Kreuzstab'. Assuming that Bach was intent to communicate clearly, then DFD's version is harrowing in just the way that Gorne, who also pairs these two cantatas, is far from...too tasteful, not putting himself on the line artistically, schooled and contained.

It may depend on whether you think the 1050s to 1070s provided too much of an expressive style, almost Romantic perhaps....but spare me for blandness. I will take the great communicators any time.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: knight on September 27, 2009, 10:27:41 AM
One that has not so far been mentioned is the arrangement Bach made for soprano and flute along with the strings. There is a beautiful EMI recording with Barbara Hendricks. I once junked this disc in a bout of HIPitis. I then found I regretted it so much, that I bought it again and it gives me a lot of pleasure.

Yes, I did it, Mike, in the Reply #11.

:) 


knight66

DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

DavidW

Quote from: knight on September 27, 2009, 12:23:52 PM
Yes, I missed that.

Mike

Poor Antoine, everyone always misses his posts. :'(

:D

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: DavidW on September 27, 2009, 05:37:06 PM
Poor Antoine, everyone always misses his posts. :'(

:D

The curse of all true visionary my friend.  0:)  ;D