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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #8040 on: March 26, 2021, 01:40:15 AM »
The thing everyone knows about Brian is that he wrote one of the longest symphonies ever. I like to remind people that he also wrote some short symphonies, including one of the shortest ever written, #22.
I had thought that this symphony was the shortest symphony written in Britain, however today I came across the late C18 symphonies of John Marsh. One of these, #3 on the Olympia disc, lasts 9:14, easily beating the very lengthy HB #22 (9:22 in the Walker version).  :)

I'm not sure you even have to go quite so obscure; the shortest of Boyce's symphonies, in the old and splendid Pinnock recording, comes in at just over 5 minutes.  Perhaps Brian wins the prize for coefficient of musical density (a term I've just coined, meaning size of orchestral forces divided by duration).

I was wondering about Mozart's 1st symphony, written in London, but that's a veritable Gothic at over 12 minutes.
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« Reply #8041 on: March 26, 2021, 06:16:35 AM »
I care! And it's the audio that mainly matters, as far as I'm concerned. Just realized: you play the trombone, so you must have participated in those awesome pedal notes in the Vivace... !

I auditioned for it, but they had tons of low brass people already, even for the extra brass bands.  Though they didn't need me to play, they invited me to attend all the rehearsals and I stayed with/was shown around by one of the tubists.  I got to watch several rehearsals with Malcolm Macdonald.

Here is one: https://vimeo.com/529364827/48c608f6d9

I'll post more later.

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« Reply #8043 on: March 26, 2021, 06:29:53 AM »
Wow! Will be watching those later today! Many thanks!
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« Reply #8045 on: March 26, 2021, 06:37:47 AM »
See above.
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« Reply #8046 on: March 26, 2021, 09:43:50 AM »
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« Reply #8047 on: March 26, 2021, 03:30:18 PM »
Tu Rex gloriae and the ending of the Te Deum laudamus are thrilling!

Thanks!  yes, I am taking credit for that though I had absolutely nothing to do with it.  It was overall a very shattering experience.  I don't know if he is on here but the author, Alan Dean Foster, filmed rehearsals of the BBC Proms gothic a year or two later.

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« Reply #8048 on: March 26, 2021, 06:15:25 PM »
Thanks!  yes, I am taking credit for that though I had absolutely nothing to do with it.  It was overall a very shattering experience.  I don't know if he is on here but the author, Alan Dean Foster, filmed rehearsals of the BBC Proms gothic a year or two later.
Alan Dean Foster is a member here, don't know under what name anymore, though. He joined the discussion about the Proms Gothic and left a link to his rehearsal video. He also took part in a discussion about Das Siegeslied.
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« Reply #8049 on: April 15, 2021, 06:04:00 AM »
Managed to pick up a copy of the Proms/Hyperion recording of the Gothic today.

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« Reply #8050 on: April 15, 2021, 06:06:29 AM »
Alan Dean Foster is a member here,

Oh I didn't know that!  I was a big fan of his novels when I was younger.  He had been in the news recently because Disney was refusing to pay him royalties on his Star Wars book.

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« Reply #8051 on: April 27, 2021, 02:58:28 AM »
Composer and HBS member John Pickard wrote the following on his Facebook page. This answers the questions regarding the 'Faust' recording in a very positive way:

"A very fulfilling day. First trip to London since December 2019, to work on the overdubs for the world premiere CD of Havergal Brian's opera 'Faust'. We added the organ (played by the great Iain Farrington) and I got to play the wind machine! The recording production legend that is Michael Ponder  was at the helm, with Mike Dutton and Dillon Gallagher working their usual magic with the engineering. Sleeve notes are done, parallel translation is done, so the biggest project ever undertaken by the Havergal Brian Society will be ready for release very soon. English National Opera - performing in German!"
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« Reply #8052 on: April 27, 2021, 03:02:59 AM »
Composer and HBS member John Pickard wrote the following on his Facebook page. This answers the questions regarding the 'Faust' recording in a very positive way:

Good news indeed!

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« Reply #8053 on: April 27, 2021, 04:31:23 AM »
Composer and HBS member John Pickard wrote the following on his Facebook page. This answers the questions regarding the 'Faust' recording in a very positive way:

"A very fulfilling day. First trip to London since December 2019, to work on the overdubs for the world premiere CD of Havergal Brian's opera 'Faust'. We added the organ (played by the great Iain Farrington) and I got to play the wind machine! The recording production legend that is Michael Ponder  was at the helm, with Mike Dutton and Dillon Gallagher working their usual magic with the engineering. Sleeve notes are done, parallel translation is done, so the biggest project ever undertaken by the Havergal Brian Society will be ready for release very soon. English National Opera - performing in German!"

Thanks for the update!