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Quote from: Maestro267 on January 12, 2023, 09:28:34 AMWe need a good No. 4 with a less warbly soprano.
Quote from: Albion on January 12, 2023, 01:02:51 PMForget the Marco Polo/ Naxos No.4. Despite the more limited sonics you're far better off with John Poole in 1974 (broadcast 25/6/1975) with Felicity Palmer, lots of choruses and the LPO...https://www.mediafire.com/file/3ct5hialrj8kire/Brian_-_Symphony_No.4%252C_Das_Siegeslied_%25281932-33%2529_-_Poole.mp3/file
Quote from: vandermolen on January 24, 2023, 11:23:15 AMI've been greatly enjoying this CD and I can't understand why, up until now, it passed me by - maybe because I already owned alternative recordings of all three work. However, I think it makes a very nice programme featuring two of my favourite HB symphonies. Even if the alternative performances (Makerras/Fredman) are better the Naxos is an excellent recording and it's good to hear alternative performances of these works. Any other views on this CD?
Quote from: Albion on January 24, 2023, 07:16:23 PMIt's great! Alexander Walker has the measure of Brian and his Naxos discs have all been uniformly excellent. I agree that the Mackerras No.7 and the Fredman No.16 are "reference" recordings, but you simply can't go wrong with this CD. Hasten and purchase (if you haven't already). The more alternative interpretations we have, the better. It's wonderful that Naxos were clearly not content just to "complete the cycle" but are interested enough in Brian to offer new versions of previously recorded works...
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 24, 2023, 08:04:19 PMA few days ago I finished my traversal throughout his 32 symphonies, which provided me of a better understanding of this composer. However, on the basis of what I heard being a listener without expert musical knowledge, I drew some conclusions or ideas:1. He's got a distinctive voice.2. When he was inspired, he really made good things, although that inspiration was intermitent.3. Some symphonies sound like they were written with no real purpose, I didn't feel anything special on them and many sound strikingly similar each other. If there were more hummable tunes or memorable melodies on them, they would have much more appeal.4. The use of cymbals and glockenspiel (mostly) is not special most of the times, but rather somewhat exaggerated, and I could include the percussion section in general; I often thought he wanted to create much noise but without addying anything particularly exceptional to the musical organism. His writing for strings and brass sounds more convincing to me.5. I consider he is an overrated composer.Said that, I classified them as below:Very good1, 7, 8, 16Significantly interesting2, 3, 11, 20, 21, 28, 29Mildly attractive4, 6, 9, 13, 25Disappointing or that did nothing for me5, 10, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27, 30, 31 and 32It's not my goal to hurt feelings as I am aware he's very respected and admired for many here, I'm just giving my personal impressions.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 24, 2023, 09:55:16 PMA good point, thanks. I listened to the CD again last night with much pleasure.
Quote from: Albion on January 25, 2023, 04:10:34 AMI'm sure that I'm getting increasingly senile. I was just about to order 8, 21 and 26 (Naxos) and 3, 17 (Heritage) from Amazon, then went to the shelf and there they were already lurking. The Stanley Pope No.3 is the one to have, as it's just bloody gorgeous: chuck the Hyperion (dry as a corpse recording) out of the window or use it as a coaster. Alexander Walker's No.8 is a scorcher and better played than the Groves RLPO.Prolific throughout an enormously long composing career, he is best known for the 32 numbered symphonies. Luckily we can now assemble good recordings of all of them, and there are some real crackers. Several of the BBC broadcasts have also been commercially released. For what it's worth, here are my top recommendations...No.1, The Gothic - Brabbins, Hyperion CDA67971/2No.2 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7330No.3 - Pope, Heritage HTGCD153No.4, Das Siegeslied - Leaper, Naxos 8.570308No.5, Wine of Summer - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7314No.6, Sinfonia Tragica - Fredman, Lyrita SRCD295No.7 - Mackerras, EMI 724357578226No.8 - Walker, Naxos 8.573752No.9 - Groves, EMI 724357578226No.10 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7267No.11 - Leaper, Naxos 8.572014No.12 - Leaper, Naxos 8.570308No.13 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7296No.14 - Brabbins CDLX7330No.15 - Rowe, Naxos 8.572014No.16 - Fredman, Lyrita SRCD295No.17 - Pope, Heritage HTGCD153No.18 - Friend, Naxos 8.557775No.19 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7314No.20 - Penny, Naxos 8.572641No.21 - Walker, Naxos 8.573752No.22 - Walker, Naxos 8.572833No.23, Symphonia brevis - Walker, Naxos 8.572833No.24 - Walker, Naxos 8.572833No.25 - Penny, Naxos 8.572641No.26 - Walker, Naxos 8.573752No.27 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7314No.28 - Walker, Naxos 8.573408No.29 - Walker, Naxos 8.573408No.30 - Brabbins, Dutton CDLX7267No.31 - Walker, Naxos 8.573408No.32 - Leaper, Naxos 8.572020
Quote from: vandermolen on January 25, 2023, 05:07:38 AMMost interesting, although I do rate the Groves No.8 very highly. I think that 22 not 23 is 'Brevis'.
Quote from: Albion on January 25, 2023, 05:58:16 AMIndeed, duly corrected. I will endeavour to be more brevis...
Quote from: vandermolen on January 24, 2023, 10:03:28 PMInteresting to hear your view Cesar. We disagree on 10 (one of my favourites) and 22 (and 3) but otherwise my list of favourites is similar (I,3,6,7,8,9,10,16,22). Although there aren't many 'hummable tunes' I do feel that some of the themes do stay with me (the brief but moving 'funeral march' in No.16 for example).
Quote from: Albion on January 25, 2023, 06:53:34 AMThis is as much of a scandal as is the neglect of Bantock, Holbrooke, Boughton, Scott, Bax, Dyson and Bliss (et al)...
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 25, 2023, 02:44:06 PMBantock, Bax, Bliss and some Dyson, yes, I agree. As to the others I feel less enthusiastic about.
Quote from: Albion on January 25, 2023, 04:38:07 PMWhich of Dyson's works would you particularly promote?
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