Havergal Brian.

[Dundonnell]

No, no....YOU would be worth reading and therefore worth buying the Guardian for(even if I can't stomach its politics )

[Brian]

No, no....YOU would be worth reading and therefore worth buying the Guardian for(even if I can't stomach its politics )

Why thank you - but I meant that bad that you would write its name as G********!

[Dundonnell]

Och...it's just an example of British hyperbolic over-reaction..............(can you have a "hyperbolic over-reaction" )

[Brian]

You Brits can have your hyperbolic over-reactions if we Americans can keep being misunderestimated!

[Lethevich]

Can't we all just get along (and buy the Independant)?

[Brian]

Can't we all just get along (and buy the Independent)?

Love that paper too. But if Colin doesn't like the Guardian's politics...!!

[Lethevich]

Hmm, I may admittedly be missing much by not be making side by side comparisons, but my general feeling is that the Independent and the Times are the only papers that don't leave me feeling like I'm reading a political mouthpiece. They have their skews, but both seem to feel an obligation to give the other side a showing as well. This is all the more remarkable considering the Times' owner.

[Brian]

Hmm, I may admittedly be missing much by not be making side by side comparisons, but my general feeling is that the Independent and the Times are the only papers that don't leave me feeling like I'm reading a political mouthpiece. They have their skews, but both seem to feel an obligation to give the other side a showing as well. This is all the more remarkable considering the Times' owner.

I happen to agree that the Independent is remarkably well-done and shows a degree of editorial restraint and poise, but I also think that a lot of the time it makes the Guardian look conservative. Maybe that was my one-year-there limited experience reading them, though.

[not edward]

I happen to agree that the Independent is remarkably well-done and shows a degree of editorial restraint and poise, but I also think that a lot of the time it makes the Guardian look conservative. Maybe that was my one-year-there limited experience reading them, though.

I don't think that's entirely unfair; however the advantage the Independent always had was that when they had editorial writing of a conservative bent they seemed to look towards the more intelligent conservatives, whereas when the Guardian brought conservative writing in it seemed to me they were doing it mostly to enrage their readers.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Returning to HB, I wonder which newspaper he read... He died too early for The Independent, the name suits him. The Daily Symphograph would be appropriate, too!

[Luke]

I always thought that he read the Daily Mail, at least to some degree, when it wasn't quite the foul rag it is now, and there was less choice and less information about and...I'm searching for reasons to excuse him! I only think this because I remember reading somewhere in Macdonald or maybe Nettel (or both) something to suggest that he had read articles in that paper.

[Dax]

With regard to the "hugely impressive" Andrew Clements, members may be interested in

http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/Clements.html

[Albion]

With regard to the "hugely impressive" Andrew Clements, members may be interested in

http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/Clements.html

Absolutely fantastic!



Clements is now collecting his P45.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

With regard to the "hugely impressive" Andrew Clements, members may be interested in

http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/Clements.html

[Lethevich]

I've been reading Vol.2 of Brian's journalism recently - such fun! Even when he's making facual mistakes, his understanding of the subjects he speaks on continually offers fascinating observations, often unnoticed or underplayed by others. His focus on the emotional side of Schoenberg's middle and late works has an almost savant-like intuition. I see a lot of supporters of musical modernism trying to underplay the difficulties of the individual techniques involved in the compositions, but when Brian outright ignores such things he genuinely feels this to be true - it's not just an intellectual or pedantic point to him.

With regard to the "hugely impressive" Andrew Clements, members may be interested in

http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/Clements.html

!

[cilgwyn]

Ann,unlike certain 'music critics',he knew what he was talking about!

[John Whitmore]

Returning to HB, I wonder which newspaper he read... He died too early for The Independent, the name suits him. The Daily Symphograph would be appropriate, too!

I believe he was very keen on the Leicester Mercury and the Shoreham Gazette.

[Albion]

Sea Pictures, a voluntarily picayune work by the keenly fanatical Elgar, was performed yesterday evening by the nearly complete Alice Coote.

Five Stars.
________

Ave atque vale, a knottily sable piece by the limply gusty Havergal Brian, was played yesterday evening by the kookily tame Garry Walker.

Two stars.

later version, revised after editorial intervention -

The woefully absent Ave atque vale, by the rudely slimy Havergal Brian, was performed last night in a viciously marked manner by Garry Walker.

Five Stars.
________

Under the Moon of Love, a frankly flaky piece by the deeply disgusted Showaddywaddy, was played yesterday evening by the positively mindless Monteverdi Choir.

Three stars.
________

Hours of fun for all the family!

[cilgwyn]

Especially Showaddywaddy.
Four stars when danced by Pans People!
With the volume turned down,of course!

[Brian]

My first attempt:



The lightly bawdy Loofah McQuary performed a work by the doubtfully troubled Donadio Abattoir last night, the perfectly blushing Spinach Concerto.
Two stars.