Havergal Brian.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Excellent news! It's a pity that Geoffrey Norris couldn't have written a few more words in his review.

I agree with Dundonnell about Bruckner; he was one of that handful in the nineteenth century that really developed the symphonic process. It's often stated that Mahler was influenced by Schoenbergian principles towards the end of his life (specfically symphonies 9 and 10), but Bruckner had got there ten years beforehand - just listen to the Schoenbergian-type clusters in Bruckner's ninth. I could write a book. (Oh; I have done!    )

For those who are hyper-saturated with Mahler recordings, have a look at these (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJnc5lYx6E and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjh2pucllRQ&feature=related) - videos of the New England Conservatory Philharmonia under Hugh Wolff in September this year, playing what may well be the very first version of his first symphony, based on a manuscript used at the Hungarian premiere in 1889, now kept in Canada. The final movement is significantly different, the recapitulation initiating with a repeat of the movement's opening rather than the viola growls that we are used to.

Interesting link. Will listen. At first I read Hugo Wolf, though...

[John Whitmore]

There is no shame in loving the Teletubbies.

I prefer Laa-Laa and Po to Bruckner. Not so sure about Tinky Winky and Dipsy.

[cilgwyn]

"The healing forces of the music of Hector Berlioz!"
I wonder what healing forces the music of Havergal Brian contains?

http://www.germanmedicine.net/en/musicberlioz.html

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

"The healing forces of the music of Hector Berlioz!"

http://www.germanmedicine.net/en/musicberlioz.html

"In this area of our website you will find recommendations for recordings of the music of Hector Berlioz - chosen primarily according to the criteria if the musicians served the composer's creation unselfishly thereby passing on the original divine inspiration of the composer in the purest possible way."

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I listened to that early version of Mahler's First - it is very clear that the Finale posed the biggest problem. From the twentieth minute in the second video onwards the music has a very different and rather chaotic structure.


Quite instructive!

[John Whitmore]

"In this area of our website you will find recommendations for recordings of the music of Hector Berlioz - chosen primarily according to the criteria if the musicians served the composer's creation unselfishly thereby passing on the original divine inspiration of the composer in the purest possible way."

Is it just in Delph or is there a terrible smell of bulls**t in the air?

[cilgwyn]

I wonder what healing 'forces' Khatchaturian has?

[cilgwyn]

Actually,I shouldn't knock old Aram. As a young man I used to regularly brain my mother with Lps of Gayaneh (the famous RCA 2Lp set),Maskarade,the Symphonies & highlights from Spartacus,at full throttle. That and Gliere's Ilya Murometz (Unicorn),the Gothic Symphony......and Das Siegeslied with Poole conducting. The whole house was literally quaking!!!!
Find the famous Armenian a tad too noisy & unsubtle now,but I still love Brian & Gliere,although Das Siegeslied doesn't get played QUITE as much!
I also play my music quietly & on headphones!!!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I like Glière's Third a lot, in the Downes performance especially. And Khatchaturian's Second is a really good war symphony and has its admirers on this board (yes!)


Has anyone noticed here that the Toccata Vol. 2 is in the spotlight, too, at MDT?

[cilgwyn]

I must admit I DO quite like that one (Khatchaturian 2),
Just looking at the MDT site now. Quite a bit about it there. Fanfare likes it & Musicweb. That review hasn't put up yet,has it (on Musicweb)?
(The sound quality is much fuller isn't,it's not just my ears?)

[John Whitmore]

I like Glière's Third a lot, in the Downes performance especially. And Khatchaturian's Second is a really good war symphony and has its admirers on this board (yes!)


Has anyone noticed here that the Toccata Vol. 2 is in the spotlight, too, at MDT?

I like the Delos recording of Gliere 2. I don't mind No.3 but it's rather thin content maybe doesn't warrant such a length. I personally like the old Scherchen/Westminster(Pye Nixa) version which has been superbly remastered by David Gideon at Rediscovery. Well worth buying as a download. See my link below - scroll down the list to RD025 and then click the link. Only 5 US dollars (£3.50 via Paypal) and it runs for nearly 80 mins. It's mono but good mono. I've done a couple of restorations for Rediscovery and they have some excellent goodies from the past including an entirely free of charge list of downloads called Paperback Classics. I don't wish to comment on Khachaturian at this moment in time.
http://www.rediscovery.us/list.html

[hbswebmaster]

The Gothic enters the UK Specialist Classical Music chart at no. 16! Go Brabbins!

John, which instrument did you play in the LSSO?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

The Gothic enters the UK Specialist Classical Music chart at no. 16! Go Brabbins!

[cilgwyn]

The Gothic up from last week to No 16! All we need are Pans People!
But,maybe not!
I prefer No 2 (to Ilya),much as I love that OTHER blockbuster!. Thanks for the link,John. I also rather like the 1st. It's certainly allot better than Rimsky Korsakov's efforts in the genre,unless you count 'Antar'?

Wonderful news,Johan!

[John Whitmore]

The Gothic enters the UK Specialist Classical Music chart at no. 16! Go Brabbins!

John, which instrument did you play in the LSSO?

I was a rank and file violinist. Mainly rank

[Sergeant Rock]

I was a rank and file violinist. Mainly rank

Yeah, but you probably "ranked" with the best of them 

Sarge

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I was a rank and file violinist. Mainly rank

Yeah, but you probably "ranked" with the best of them 

I'll be "filing" those away for later use. 

[Dundonnell]

I am keeping the Gothic as a Christmas present for myself

I can wait

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I am keeping the Gothic as a Christmas present for myself

I can wait

So can I... I'm following the same path. It'll be a Merry Gothic Christmas!

[springrite]

Oh, so it is NOT a bad economy. It's just that people are giving themselves presents!

I've got to find myself a boxset as a present. The Gothic seems so ... tiny. Too bad the Complete Havergal Brian Opera Boxset is not available. I'd get that for myself in a minute. I've loved the bits I have heard and would love to own them all!