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J.Z. Herrenberg

Hi John - I'm afraid I know as much as you do...  :( We'll have to be patient a little more, it seems.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

J.Z. Herrenberg

I just bought (downloaded) the new Naxos Brian CD at ClassicsOnline and listened here and there: ending of the Symphonia Brevis, for instance, and the Carnival movement from the Suite - terrific! Sound is excellent and I can clearly hear that the conductor knows exactly what he is doing. I'll listen to the whole CD later tonight, but I am already very relieved AND very excited!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

J.Z. Herrenberg

Listened to symphonies 22-24... This CD is an absolute winner. It gives you that real Brian frisson, reminding you why you love the man's music so much. No. 22 gets its best performance ever, I think. The tempi are all well-judged, Alexander Walker knows when to tighten the reins and when to let rip, so the music flows and breathes very naturally. No. 23 is a revelation. To my ears it now clearly points ahead to No. 27 and 28 in the extreme intensity of some its passages. I am very impressed by what has been achieved here by the orchestra. It's quite a ride! No. 24 is excellent, too. Perhaps (minor, very minor niggle) the tempo of the final slow movement could be a tad slower. But who cares - I was moved. It all comes together wonderfully, you can hear the unity of this trilogy for the first time.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Karl Henning

Thanks for that, most interesting, Johan.

So the English Suite is actually longer than any of the actual symphonies on that CD? Curious!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Actually . . . actual . . . haven't finished my first mug of tea this morning, can you tell? . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

J.Z. Herrenberg

Yes...  ;) Still, one eagle eye spotted the remarkable fact that the Suite is longer than any of the symphonies. So there is hope for you after all.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

#5506
Quote from: karlhenning on May 02, 2013, 04:04:57 AM
Thanks for that, most interesting, Johan.

So the English Suite is actually longer than any of the actual symphonies on that CD? Curious!


22 -  9:22
23 - 13:44
24 - 16:29

English Suite #1 (6 movements) - 25:51


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Hi, Sarge! What do you think of the new CD?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

#5508
Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 02, 2013, 04:23:20 AM
Hi, Sarge! What do you think of the new CD?

It's a noisy SOB, isn't it?  :D ;)


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

That's one, very valid, way of looking at it!  ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 02, 2013, 04:20:58 AM
22 -  9:22
23 - 13:44
24 - 16:19

English Suite #1 (6 movements) - 25:51

Thanks, Sarge.

Indeed, the English Suite proves to be longer than the 22nd & 23rd symphonies together . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 02, 2013, 04:25:41 AM
That's one, very valid, way of looking at it!  ;D

Seriously, I found the recording a bit harsh when I listened to 22. I moved on to the English Suite which was far easier on my ears. A truly lovely work, and a great performance. I wasn't feeling well, though, when I tried to listen to the symphonies; sinus and ear infection. So I'm sure (I'm hoping anyway) it was my condition and not the sonics fault.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

I hope you'll be better soon, Sarge. I do think, though, that the harshness is there in the work. No. 23 is even more uncompromising, as the middle, 'battle' part of the trilogy...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Karl Henning

#5513
Sinus and ear infection is certainly not one's ideal listening conditions! : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

J.Z. Herrenberg

It simply shows to what lengths the true Brianite will go...  ;)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Brian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 02, 2013, 04:24:52 AM
It's a noisy SOB, isn't it?  :D ;)
Sarge
Perfect! I have a coworker who doesn't know when to shut up and I'm always looking for loud music to play over my headphones so I don't have to hear him.  :)

J.Z. Herrenberg

You could always play the final minutes of the 'Judex' on a loop.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

cilgwyn

Quote from: Brian on May 02, 2013, 04:42:23 AM
Perfect! I have a coworker who doesn't know when to shut up and I'm always looking for loud music to play over my headphones so I don't have to hear him.  :)
Das Siegeslied! ;D

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: cilgwyn on May 02, 2013, 04:46:33 AM
Das Siegeslied! ;D

That would certainly do the trick...but would cause permanent ear damage too  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 02, 2013, 04:49:54 AM
That would certainly do the trick...but would cause permanent ear damage too  ;D

Sarge

With friends like that . . . .

; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot