Obama to receive Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush

[Florestan]

don't forget that Hitler, Mussolini and Staline were all nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. IIRC, they were famous for their rousing speeches too...

Now, the term "peace" is very vague and means nothing outside a specific context, methinks. Had Hitler won the war and achieved his domination plans, he would have imposed peace --- his peace --- over the whole Europe. The same works for Stalin...

[Josquin des Prez]

By the way, I think Castro's speeches are even longer.

But that's only because English is not as long winded a language as Spanish. 

[Josquin des Prez]

JDP,

Since you recently re-edited a post that I altered, as it broke the rules about name calling, I have instead just deleted the post in which you refer to someone as a hypocrite.

Such posts will now disappear rather than be edited and then give you the opportunity to replace it as originally worded.

Knight

Actually, i didn't re-edit your edit. Most likely, i must have been in the process of editing some of my typos and replaced your edit when i submitted mine. No matter, its a well known fact most liberals are just hypocrites who constantly accuse conservatives for things they themselves do on a constant basis, i don't have to say it directly.

[Franco]

The latest liberal hypocrisy involves the Obama adminstration's "war" against the Fox News Network.  Pretty absurd, IMO, for a president to decide that the only voice of the opposition is "not a legitimate news organization".  He recently complained that one network does not really give him a fair shake.  Ah, poor baby, I guess not charming the lone media holdout into a lovesick swoon gets under his thin skin.

This is especially hypocritical since during the Bush years, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, and various blogs and web media routinely attacked Bush, in terms much less cordial than anything Fox has done with Obama.  But, Bush never "went to war" against any of them, even describing the actions of folks like Cindy Sheehan as just exercising their Constitutional right to protest.  Whereas Obama ridicules the rightwing protests against his various government takeovers, calling them "tea bag people", implying they are racists, etc.

I expect the press to be critical of the government - that is their job, and it is an embarrassment to have so many news organizations such as the New York Times, and other major media, act as apologists for Obama.  This is journalistic malpractice and does a disservice to our democracy.

Now, about the prize, not only is this prize further proof of the meaningless of the Nobel Peace Prize, they lost much credibility when they gave it to Yasser Arafat - but evidence of the knee jerk reaction of leftists to applaud speeches as if saying the words is enough and the fact that what he is actually doing vis a vis Iran, North Korea, Islamic terrorists, and the Soviet Union, is appeasement, not peacemaking, is ignored.

[springrite]

I am nominating my daughter Kimi for what she will bring to world peace.

[Mozart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/EsXxEEEdc0Q&feature=sub

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Thanks for that, Mozart. Rep. Paul nailed this one, I think 

[DavidW]

Thanks for that, Mozart. Rep. Paul nailed this one, I think 

Agreed, Paul nailed it and thanks for posting it Mozart.

[Josquin des Prez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/EsXxEEEdc0Q&feature=sub

Bullseye, as always from Dr. Paul.

[Florestan]

The voice of reason indeed.

[Herman]

This is especially hypocritical since during the Bush years, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, and various blogs and web media routinely attacked Bush, in terms much less cordial than anything Fox has done with Obama.  

Where do you get this? No one in recent times has had such a honeymoon as Bush had, by virtue of him being a self declared 'war president'.

Where were the WMD? All the major networks and other mainstream media (including the NY Times) needed ages to figure out Bush's claims were bogus.

Media aren't supposed to 'attack' a president. Ad hominem attacks ("you lie") are no good. However they are supposed to investigate and figure out the truth and report fearlessly.

[Lilas Pastia]

Thanks for that, Mozart. Rep. Paul nailed this one, I think 

The very last sentence is indeed the voice of reason. And of peace  . Of course, Pax americana will always be a contentious issue, no matter what end of the political spectrum you happen to feel good with.

He is absolutely right in saying Obama's approach is more internationalist and UN-NATO oriented. I also like his candid assessment of what happens when  presidents are voted into office. Left or right leaning, they seem to do the exact opposite of what they were hoped to stand for.

We'll see, as always. In any case, the debate over the meaning of, and the actions needed to bring world peace have been given a lot of air time this week. I wonder what the debate would have been if Noah Chomsky had won the award. Of course, he has no concrete achievements to his credit, only writings and speeches...

[knight66]

I wonder what the debate would have been if Noah Chomsky had won the award. Of course, he has no concrete achievements to his credit, only writings and speeches...

Like Plato and Socrates I guess.

Mike

[Todd]

We'll see, as always. In any case, the debate over the meaning of, and the actions needed to bring world peace have been given a lot of air time this week. I wonder what the debate would have been if Noah Chomsky had won the award. Of course, he has no concrete achievements to his credit, only writings and speeches...

I believe it's Noam, not Noah.  And I do believe he does actually have a number of concrete achievements to his credit in his field of expertise, linguistics. 

[Lilas Pastia]

Obviously. But I was referring to his political positions. You know that as well as me, Todd...

[Todd]

But I was referring to his political positions. You know that as well as me, Todd...

So, explain how Chomsky's political positions would win him a Nobel peace prize.

[Coopmv]

In a number of ways, W is in the same league as Nixon and Carter - those years you want to forget.  So not being Bush is not how Obama will be judged.

[Lilas Pastia]

So, explain how Chomsky's political positions would win him a Nobel peace prize.

I think you don't get the drift of what I said:

I wonder what the debate would have been if Noah Chomsky had won the award.

. Controversy has always surrounded Nobel Peace prizes. The idea of Chomsky (or any other hotly debated intellectual with strong political positions)  winning the prize would make the Obama controversy look very tame.

BTW thanks for the correction. I had always thought it was Noah, not Noam.

[Todd]

The idea of Chomsky (or any other hotly debated intellectual with strong political positions)  winning the prize would make the Obama controversy look very tame.

I got the point, and while Chomsky winning would most certainly be more controversial than Obama winning, the mention of the idea seems to imply that Chomsky has done something, or even just written something, that would warrant nomination for the prize.  He's written a lot (and made good money for some evil transnationals) and given a lot of speeches, but so have a lot of academics.  If just coming up with a controversial name were the task, why not choose, say, Putin?

[Lilas Pastia]

Or George W. Bush, for that matter.