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Quote from: foxandpeng on March 17, 2023, 02:20:26 PMCross-post from WAYTLSymphonies 13, 14 and 15Darker 13, lighter 14 with some very enjoyable energy and tunes, and currently hearing 15 (what an attractive melody in the second movement!). Continuing to enjoy my first meaningful and full traversal of NYM's symphonies, as it is proving lots of fun and appropriately relaxing. Some of the emotionally searching demands made by other composers I often hear, are absent from this cycle so far, and that different focus is nice. It is simply enjoyable music. I mean that without suggesting NYM falls short in any way. I'm still only half way through, mind, but the less challenging and more restorative nature of many of the symphonies is welcome. I find the same features in Glazunov, whose music I love far more than I mention on GMG, and Kallinikov's two wonderful symphonies. Perhaps I'm not as blinkered or focused on far more contemporary/recent music, as I think.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 18, 2023, 12:12:40 AMI'm sure that a theme in NYM's 27th Symphony comes from Glazunov's 1st Symphony (a work that I really like).
Quote from: foxandpeng on March 18, 2023, 01:45:14 AMReturning to hear some Glazunov, Balakirev, and Borodin seems a really natural step alongside the sweep of NYM's symphonies. I did hear the Kondrashin Balakirev symphonies first thing this morning, before picking up my first Myaskovsky of the day just now. Symphony 16 through the house while my kind wife cooks bacon breakfast rolls isn't a bad beginning to Saturday.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 16, 2023, 02:28:00 AMA great pleasure Danny! After your marathon traversal of the symphonies you could investigate some of his other scores (if you don't already know them) here are my top recommendations:String Quartet No.13Piano Sonata 5Cello ConcertoViolin ConcertoLyric ConcertinoTwo Pieces for Strings (adapted from the middle movements of Symphony No.19 for Band)The Kremlin at Night (only on You Tube)
Quote from: foxandpeng on March 20, 2023, 05:53:52 AMCross-post from WAYLT...Nicolai MiaskovskyComplete SymphoniesSymphony 18SvetlanovState Academic Symphony Orchestra of RussiaThis is delightful, to be honest. Folk melodies and whirling peasants abound! There's no doubt that NYM writes masterfully for strings, and that is becoming increasingly apparent to me as he moves into this purple patch of quality writing. Wind instruments, brass... all the good stuff.Without access to a great deal of liner notes or review material, I wonder whether there is an element of NYM looking back over his shoulder to a simpler and less modern time in this symphony. There seems more rustic joy and glad celebration than the political complexities and upheaval of his time, would suggest. Whatever the rights or wrongs of that take, this is music to cheer the spirits and lift the mood.Go, go, NYM.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 20, 2023, 06:43:09 AMDon't worry, the liner notes will be coming your way soon!
Quote from: foxandpeng on March 15, 2023, 09:12:29 PMBrilliant! This is just very helpful, thank you 😁. I'm so glad you've benefitted from your survey, and even more glad you've taken time to share some thoughts. It really does appear that the best part of my discovery starts with the symphonies to come! Thank you, again for sharing your knowledge 🥳🥳
Quote from: vandermolen on March 16, 2023, 12:53:54 AMInteresting list Cesar, which I largely agree with, although the sprawling No.6 is my favourite for its moments of profound beauty and emotion, which are more compelling as they break through the 'academic' surface (trio of the scherzo - that flute passage is one of the most moving moments that I know in all classical music) and the entry of the chorus at the end.No. 8 has a very moving slow movement 'like a Russian Delius of the Steppes' according to one source. Apart from No.6, 3, 17, 21,and 27 are my favourites and I rate 12,15,16,22,23,24 and 25 very highly. I liked the new Naxos recording of 13 more than expected. 11 has its moments too. No.5 is highly rated but it is a bit too 'perky' for me; I prefer the all-encompassing pervasive gloom.
Quote from: Karl Henning on March 16, 2023, 07:04:55 AMMost interesting, Cesar. I don't at present foresee knowing them so comprehensively myself. (I still haven't made a complete traversal, even. Back when I knew little more of Myaskovsky than lines here and there in Prokofiev bios (I first learnt of him in Harlow Robinson's generally good book) I tended to dismiss his music as "same gloom, different day," so at the least I am delighted to have heard so much genuinely excellent music of Myaskovsky's, and even better, morally, to have found that the early symphonies are rather better than I had at first hostilely appraised them.
Quote from: foxandpeng on March 22, 2023, 01:46:53 PMCross-post from WAYLT Nicolai MiaskovskyComplete SymphoniesSymphony 21SvetlanovState Academic Symphony Orchestra of RussiaFourth time through for 21. Beginning to gather some familiarity with this now. I've found this symphony harder to connect to than others, surprisingly. It feels like a change of style, somehow, which I think has thrown me. Perhaps because there are fewer light moments? Fewer folk or pastoral passages, maybe? It certainly feels like a more modern symphony than some of its predecessors. Not in a bad way, just in a way. Perhaps it is simply more complex? Maybe it's just Wednesday 🤔Again, purely subjective and open to correction by wiser ears. What is worth commenting on, is the quality of liner notes included in the Alto booklet, written by our own Vandermolen. Extremely informative and thoughtfully incisive. Credit where such is due.
Quote from: Løvfald on March 22, 2023, 05:27:57 PMI'm not much fond of the Svetlanov recording of that symphony. This is the recording that opened my ears to the No. 21 (epic cover art too):
Quote from: Karl Henning on March 23, 2023, 08:14:19 AMWho are the forces?
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