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Quote from: Verena on May 09, 2010, 08:18:52 AMI bet the Haitink on that box is great. Haitink has become one of my favorite conductors. Unfortunately, the box is long OOP, right?
QuoteYes, I believe that is correct. I do see copies now and then on eBay; if you are signed up for eBay (free) you can set up an "eBay alert" that will let you know when one comes up for sale.But that said, look what I found, a 4-DVD set of (apparently) the same concerts. You'll have to order in Dutch!http://www.huisvolmuziek.nl/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=151976--Bruce
Quote from: Verena on May 14, 2010, 09:56:57 AMDo you - or anyone else - happen to know his other Mahler Melodiya recordings? I've been eying the set for quite some time now. Thanks.
QuoteIn this forum, I know Jens (jlaurson) owns the set, and I do. What do you want to know?Sarge
Quote from: Verena on May 14, 2010, 01:48:47 PMHi Sarge,Basically, how you'd rate the set with regard to interpretation; whether the sound is OK; and what are the highlights of the set - I guess I'd like to pick and choose rather than buy the whole thing, since it's quite expensiveThanks
QuoteBut all in all, I consider Kondrashin's one of the better Mahler compilations (not being a complete cycle) out there, and certainly among the most interesting series of Mahler recordings from a single conductor. Not a pressingly urgent recommendation bar the 7th, especially now that Gergiev's Mahler is around - cue Jens: - but worth hearing.
QuoteDean Martin has been my inspiration this evening...I've had one too many Ballatine's on the Rocks I'll reply more fully this weekend after I've sobered up. But I'll say for now, in general, I was disappointed by Kondrashin's Mahler. You have to understand, though, that I own more than twenty versions of each symphony, so at this point, I'm interested in interpretations, performances, that are highly individual, even "wrong." Kondrashin didn't deliver. However, another Russian has: Svetlanov. But his cycle is even more expensive and, I think, not available as single CDs. More later.
Quote from: Verena on May 14, 2010, 04:35:25 PMThanks, Sarge! Indeed, now you've made me curious about the Svetlanov. If it's very expensive, I guess I have to wait till I can invest in that cycle .. But then, only a couple of months to go until Christmas
QuoteI don't know where you live, what source is cheapest for you. Amazon.com is really expensive (around $150 if I remember correctly). JPC (Germany) is the most reasonable I've seen (if you are in Europe) at about half the Amazon price. But don't push a buy button until I've commented further Sarge
Quote from: Verena on May 14, 2010, 04:31:49 PMThanks a lot, Renfield, for your advice! Actually, I've never heard any Mahler by Gergiev so far. Probably it's time to change this unacceptable situation
QuoteSo, like with Kondrashin, as illustrated by the different assessment from Sarge's point of view, I'd advise sampling to see if 'interesting' translates to 'desirable' in your particular case; the 6th, 7th and 8th are arguably the strongest so far.
Quote from: Renfield on May 15, 2010, 04:02:23 AMYou're very welcome. Gergiev's Mahler is very divisive, both across listeners and within: there's people like our very own Jens Laurson who dismiss it, or like a lot of the British press are very muted in their occasional praise.Whereas others, for instance at least one reviewer in the International Record Review, and indeed (without presuming to claim comparable authority) myself, think his structurally driven approach has great merit.But even given this, I really didn't like his 1st, especially in comparison to Kondrashin. Whereas I believe Mike (knight) enjoyed it!So, like with Kondrashin, as illustrated by the different assessment from Sarge's point of view, I'd advise sampling to see if 'interesting' translates to 'desirable' in your particular case; the 6th, 7th and 8th are arguably the strongest so far.
QuotePut me in the generally pro-Gergiev camp. So far, the only one I don't like is the most recent, the Fourth (the Fifth and Ninth are in the wings. Did he do DLvdE?) I'd say the Second and Eighth are good but not great; the Adagio from 10 (which is packaged with the Second) is great; the Third and Sixth are excellent; the Seventh very good but not as good as others (Abbado/Berlin remains my standard here). I like the First, because it was the first recording of that symphony that made me realize how good the First was. Up to that point, all the recordings I had heard left me a little cold, and wondering if the fault was Mahler's. Since then, I've come across a couple of recordings (Haitink's latest on CSO Resound, and Bernstein's first recording, for instance) that I prefer to Gergiev, but the recording remains a keeper for me. Perhaps this will help you if I say that Gergiev seems best in those passages of Mahler which are closest to Shostakovich.
Quote from: Verena on May 16, 2010, 12:58:40 AMVery helpful review! Thanks, Kishnevi! I'm actually also looking for a great Adagio (10th symphony). So I might try Gergiev here. Interesting that you mention the latest Haitink Mahler 1. I'm a great fan of Haitink's Mahler (and Bruckner). Do you by any chance also know other Haitink recordings of the first Mahler symphony? (I would be interested to know which recording of that symphony people prefer)
QuoteRe Haitink, I believe the critical consensus favours his unavailable recording with (IIRC) the BPO, in the 1st. I've not heard any of his recordings of the piece, but am familiar with his first Concertgebouw 3rd, and his recent Chicago 6th, and like both.(I've also heard his Chicago 3rd, which was sonically quite impressive, but lost my interest after a second listen.)
Quote from: Verena on May 16, 2010, 04:51:05 AMThanks! I think the recording you are referring to is available, at least as a download:http://www.qobuz.com/telechargement-album-mp3/Mahler-Symphonies-Nos.1-2-/Classique/Philharmonique-de-Berlin/Philips/default/fiche_produit/id_produit-0002894756222.html
Quote from: papy on May 16, 2010, 05:36:52 AMA bit cheaper on Amazon UK as a download, Renfield :http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symphonies-Nos-1-2/dp/B001N202V6/ref=dm_cd_album_lnk?ie=UTF8&qid=1274016921&sr=8-37
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