Sergei Rachmaninov (1873-1943)

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madaboutmahler

#120
May 10, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 10, 2012, 09:20:43 AM
Splendid, Daniel! High time this thread was revived.

I don't know that recording, though . . . .

:)

I would highly recommend this to you, Karl! I think I wrote a review a while ago for this cd on amazon by the way...
Here it is:
[asin]B003Z0BSU8[/asin]
My review is a couple down. ;)

Hope I have persuaded you to get it! ;)

By the way, has anyone heard Pappano's Rach Symphony no.2? I'd be interested to hear this as he was outstanding with Andsnes on the concert recordings. :)
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North Star

#121
May 10, 2012, 12:02:26 PM
That Andsnes album looks interesting, Danny. I like his 2nd PC recording, and Schumann (1st sonata & fantaisie).
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madaboutmahler

#122
May 10, 2012, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: North Star on May 10, 2012, 12:02:26 PM
That Andsnes album looks interesting, Danny. I like his 2nd PC recording, and Schumann (1st sonata & fantaisie).

It comes with very high recommendations from me, Karlo! Yes, the recordings of the 1st and 2nd PCs with the BPO and Pappano are also excellent. But I think Andsnes excels even further in these recordings of the 3rd and 4th.

I once saw Andsnes perform the 3rd, again with the LSO and Pappano, in a concert coupled with Tchaikovsky 6, which was excellent.
I would be very interested to hear his performance of the Schumann. He really is an excellent pianist.
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North Star

#123
May 10, 2012, 12:36:55 PM
I was talking about his solo piano Schumann recording, but the concerto seem to be highly regarded, too.
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madaboutmahler

#124
May 10, 2012, 12:42:53 PM
Quote from: North Star on May 10, 2012, 12:36:55 PM
I was talking about his solo piano Schumann recording, but the concerto seem to be highly regarded, too.

I'd certainly be interested in hearing both! :)
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Lisztianwagner

#125
May 10, 2012, 01:00:29 PM
All this chit-chat about Rach's Piano Concertos has made me want to listen to them. ;D No.3 with Ashkenazy/Previn!!
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mszczuj

#126
May 10, 2012, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Philoctetes on May 10, 2012, 09:28:46 AM
..or The ROZH!

Yes! It is the most magic Rozhdestvensky I ever heard. And I have probably heard more Rozhdestvensky's records than of any other conductor as he was the main option for Russian music available in my country when I was strating my listening madness.

Cato

#127
May 10, 2012, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: mszczuj on May 10, 2012, 01:36:55 PM
Yes! It is the most magic Rozhdestvensky I ever heard. And I have probably heard more Rozhdestvensky's records than of any other conductor as he was the main option for Russian music available in my country when I was starting my listening madness.

Now that is a recommendation!

Have we really been neglecting The Rach?

He cannot possibly be happy about that!




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Brian

#128
May 10, 2012, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: Philoctetes on May 10, 2012, 09:28:46 AM
..or The ROZH!

The Rozh is one of my all-time top 3 Rach Twos, with Ormandy (uncut '70s) and Previn EMI. Rozh might be #1 but I love that trio.

raduneo

#129
May 10, 2012, 08:57:51 PM
This thread isn't accessible from the composer index. :( I had no idea it existed until now! :O

A great composer, IMO! Maybe not to the level of Stravinksy, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev or Shostakovich, but definitely VERY noteworthy! (in my opinion)

Cato

#130
May 13, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: raduneo on May 10, 2012, 08:57:51 PM
This thread isn't accessible from the composer index. :( I had no idea it existed until now! :O

A great composer, IMO! Maybe not to the level of Stravinksy, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev or Shostakovich, but definitely VERY noteworthy! (in my opinion)

Well, have you heard The Bells, his unofficial "4th" Symphony, although composed before the Third?

Or Isle of the Dead?

Or The Covetous Knight?

Although he composed "only" c. 40 works, I think he is on the same level as the others.  Schoenberg is another with "only" 40 works or so, but...

Schoenberg vs. The Rach...now that would be interesting!

On whether psychotherapy affected Rachmaninoff's creativity for good or ill, i.e. whether a future Russian Schoenberg sent in an awry direction:

http://www.scena.org/columns/lebrecht/030416-NL-Rachmaninov.html
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BobsterLobster

#131
May 14, 2012, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: Cato on May 13, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
Well, have you heard The Bells, his unofficial "4th" Symphony, although composed before the Third?

Or Isle of the Dead?

Or The Covetous Knight?

Although he composed "only" c. 40 works, I think he is on the same level as the others.  Schoenberg is another with "only" 40 works or so, but...

Schoenberg vs. The Rach...now that would be interesting!

On whether psychotherapy affected Rachmaninoff's creativity for good or ill, i.e. whether a future Russian Schoenberg sent in an awry direction:

http://www.scena.org/columns/lebrecht/030416-NL-Rachmaninov.html

Interesting article!

A Russian Schoenberg in the context of Rachmaninov makes me think of Roslavets...

BobsterLobster

#132
May 14, 2012, 05:58:07 PM
Hmm, a quick bit of Wikepedia-ing shows that I'm not wide of the mark: "Roslavets was sometimes referred to as 'the Russian Schoenberg'"

TheGSMoeller

#133
July 18, 2012, 11:38:03 AM
http://www.wfmt.com/  will be streaming Chicago"s own Grant Park Orchestra's performance this evening, Khachaturian's Violin Concerto and Rachmaninov's Symphonic Dances

Begins at 7:30 eastern, 6:30 central with no intermission. The above link has a "listen live" button on its home page, easy to navigate, also WFMT has apps for iPhone and iPad, not sure about other mobile devices.

Hope you get a chance to listen and enjoy, them be a great group of musicians!! Plus, if you're lucky you can hear police and fire truck sirens in the background (hall is outside)

Cato

#134
September 16, 2012, 06:52:51 AM
I just saw a TV ad for The Master, a new movie about (wink-wink) Scientology.

The background music used was from Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead.

Unfortunately, I cannot find it anywhere online.  Anyway, the effect was highly unsettling!
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Lisztianwagner

#135
September 16, 2012, 10:27:35 AM
Besides being a wonderful composer, Rachmaninov was absolutely one of the best pianists of all time; I've always been very impressed by the precision, the delicacy, the rythmic flexibility and the passionate, beautifully expressive force of his piano technique.

http://www.youtube.com/v/kj3CHx3TDzw
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DavidRoss

#136
October 06, 2012, 04:44:35 AM
Quote from: Cato on September 16, 2012, 06:52:51 AM
I just saw a TV ad for The Master, a new movie about (wink-wink) Scientology.
Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson and featuring Philip Seymour Hoffman, Joaquin Phoenix, and Amy Adams, this will be a "must-see" for me.

If it tells the truth about Hubbard's cult, Anderson may need Secret Service protection.

Here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/v/pALMMIoxTzY
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DavidRoss

#137
October 06, 2012, 04:46:49 AM
Back to Rachmaninoff --

The past couple of days I've been groovin' to his piano sonata in G minor.  Hadn't heard it in years and had forgotten how good it is.
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Lisztianwagner

#138
November 19, 2012, 12:00:32 PM
I watched this documentary more than once, but I hadn't payed attention to that because I usually let myself go to the poetical beauty and the passionate energy of Rachmaninov's music: is it merely my impression or at 03:54 Gergiev changes the march of the Allegro con fuoco of 1st Symphony?

http://www.youtube.com/v/vi3MU9JnL7E

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madaboutmahler

#139
March 07, 2013, 12:17:10 PM
Listening to Rach Symphony 1 as part of RSMM, and  :o this is the first time I have heard it in full, and oh my.... it's excellent! It certainly seems very reserved compared to no.2, with more subtle emotion, more deeply hidden. It's obviously a very personal work, so no wonder Rach was so depressed after the premiere failure. It's a great work, and I do think it deserves even more attention. I want to conduct it now :D

Think it's becoming a favourite :)
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