Gavriil Popov 1904-1972

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Catison

Any new opinions of the Titov?  I really, realy want that Olympia disc, but is it worth $80?
-Brett

not edward

Since there's still no sign of the Provatorov being reissued, and I really wouldn't want anyone discovering Popov's First in Titov's tentative near-sightreading, I've taken the liberty of ripping and uploading the Olympia disc. It'll likely take an afternoon or so to download from RapidShare, but I think it'd be worth it for anyone with the slightest interest in Russian 20th century music.

https://rapidshare.com/files/4250441272/Popov_Symphonies_1___2_-_Olympia.zip (entire disc as one flac file, with a cue file as well).
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

J.Z. Herrenberg

Yes, it'll take around 3 hours (download is at a snail's pace - I am used to around 1600 kb/s and this is 30 kb/s)... Still, it seems to be worth it! Thanks!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Catison

Quote from: edward on May 05, 2012, 09:43:58 PM
Since there's still no sign of the Provatorov being reissued, and I really wouldn't want anyone discovering Popov's First in Titov's tentative near-sightreading, I've taken the liberty of ripping and uploading the Olympia disc. It'll likely take an afternoon or so to download from RapidShare, but I think it'd be worth it for anyone with the slightest interest in Russian 20th century music.

https://rapidshare.com/files/4250441272/Popov_Symphonies_1___2_-_Olympia.zip (entire disc as one flac file, with a cue file as well).

Wow, thanks Edward.  I have the Telarc disc and I love it.  So I just wanted another perspective on this symphony.
-Brett

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

J.Z. Herrenberg

#25
Download completed... I just started listening - 5 minutes in. Epic stuff!


Found this by Alex Ross:


http://www.therestisnoise.com/2004/09/the_popov_disco.html
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Catison

-Brett

Karl Henning

Behold, the power of Popov!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

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Karl Henning

Botstein, of course, is (or was, at any rate) President of Bard College in the Hudson River valley.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

not edward

Quote from: Catison on May 07, 2012, 02:47:58 AM

Hi Johan.  Popov brought me back.
The First symphony certainly is loud enough to wake the dead.

Interesting trivia: if the work hadn't been banned, it would've had its first performance in the West under the baton of Otto Klemperer (who at the same time had also acquired the rights for the first Western performance of Shostakovich's 4th symphony). He might have had to spread the two out a bit, given the remarkable similarities between the two works.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

J.Z. Herrenberg

Thanks, again, Edward, for making those Olympia recordings available to us. Popov's First is a great piece. The amazing closing minutes are similar in effect to those of Enescu's Second Symphony, where the same wild abandon is, electrifyingly, in evidence.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Catison

-Brett

cilgwyn

Quote from: edward on May 05, 2012, 09:43:58 PM
Since there's still no sign of the Provatorov being reissued, and I really wouldn't want anyone discovering Popov's First in Titov's tentative near-sightreading, I've taken the liberty of ripping and uploading the Olympia disc. It'll likely take an afternoon or so to download from RapidShare, but I think it'd be worth it for anyone with the slightest interest in Russian 20th century music.

https://rapidshare.com/files/4250441272/Popov_Symphonies_1___2_-_Olympia.zip (entire disc as one flac file, with a cue file as well).
I just downloaded this & turned into a cdr! I have never heard a note of Popov before,but heard a huge amount about him over the years,particularly his first symphony. Superlatives,usually & now I finally get to hear it in,what is,apparently,the best recorded performance. Funnily enough I bought the Regis reissue of Shostakovich's Fourth off Amazon,the other day,for about £1.38 inc p&p. After listening to this,Shostakovich's wild,wacky Fourth,seems quite tame! :o

Thanks edward!

J.Z. Herrenberg

Yes, Popov's First is Shostakovich's Fourth's wilder sibling.  ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

cilgwyn

Indeed! :o Some of the most extroadinary sounds I have ever heard from a symphony orchestra & that includes mavericks like Jon Leifs,who add all sort of 'exotic' instruments (and does it loudly & very well,fair play! ;D) The Shostakovich 4 I listened to,incidentally, was Barshai & the WDR.

ttle18

Popov's Second is definitely not as original as his First, but it has been much underestimated (what by Popov has not). There is an old Urania LP recording under Hermann Abendroth's baton. One part near the middle is totally saturated, yet incredibly gripping and powerfully urgent.
What a sheer musical talent Popov was.
I would love to hear his violin concerto as well.
Thanh-Tam Le, Ph.D.
Violin, Symphonies, Maths, Flags et al.

vandermolen

Quote from: ttle18 on July 28, 2012, 06:21:51 AM
Popov's Second is definitely not as original as his First, but it has been much underestimated (what by Popov has not). There is an old Urania LP recording under Hermann Abendroth's baton. One part near the middle is totally saturated, yet incredibly gripping and powerfully urgent.
What a sheer musical talent Popov was.
I would love to hear his violin concerto as well.

He was such a fine composer. I have two CDs of No 2 on Olympia and Northern Flowers.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

Popov's Symphony No. 2 is outstanding!

http://www.youtube.com/v/SsoMtTgrEOI

http://www.youtube.com/v/fYChBZipBWQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/WI23f_j-nQc

This symphony is definitely my glass of vodka. Sad that Soviet composers like Popov, Mossolov, Tishchenko continue to get ignored by the classical audiences. If the New York Philharmonic or Royal Concertgebouw performed Popov's Symphony No. 2, there is no doubt that he would have some new admirers of his music. It's all about exposure.