Apple Lossless or WAV

[zorzynek]

This thread is hilarious.

[Tapio Dmitriyevich]

I just have to quote Siegfried Linkwitz:
The room is not the problem. The loudspeaker is the problem. www.linkwitzlab.com
I do not know what kind of Jamos you have, but maybe there are other  Jamos, like the 907, that would make you more happy with your room.
I have parquet floor and a total of 9m window surface in my living room, but my speakers are very similar to the Linkwitz and Jamo 907s.

Hmm. I've got a pair of Jamo D590... Speakers > 2000 EUR aren't my price league, unfortunately

[Novi]

Help!

I've been ripping to the external drive, but at some stage managed to set up an iTunes folder in my computer's hard drive again. So now everything's all over the place.

Can I do the whole 'changing the location of iTunes folder' business again or will that mess things up with what's already on the external drive?

Maybe I should stick to CDs...

[Gurn Blanston]

Help!

I've been ripping to the external drive, but at some stage managed to set up an iTunes folder in my computer's hard drive again. So now everything's all over the place.

Can I do the whole 'changing the location of iTunes folder' business again or will that mess things up with what's already on the external drive?

Maybe I should stick to CDs...

You can fix the immediate situation with elementary file management ("move" the new files into the other folder). Then, go to iTunes (which I presume to have similar characteristics to congeneric software) and set the default location for putting newly ripped files to your folder on the external drive. I have a folder on my external drive called "My Music" (alright, it was easy, I did it ) and inside that I have another folder called "Work". So I set my default location to J:\My Music\Work and all files go there. Then I make sure my tagging is what I want, then I move them to their eventual final destination. This is such an easy system that I have kept it for over 10 years now!



PS - the fact that you are using an Apple and I am using a PC is totally irrelevant to this solution.

[George]

And if you decide that you just want to stick to CDs Novi, there's a party going on right here! A celebration to last throughout the year. So bring your CDs, and that extra free time too, we're gonna celebrate your party with you. C'mon now! 

[Renfield]

Help!

I've been ripping to the external drive, but at some stage managed to set up an iTunes folder in my computer's hard drive again. So now everything's all over the place.

Can I do the whole 'changing the location of iTunes folder' business again or will that mess things up with what's already on the external drive?

Maybe I should stick to CDs...

Set iTunes to copy all files added to the library in the library folder, then reset the library folder to your external hard drive, and when it asks you whether it should update everything, say yes on both counts.

Then manually confirm that everything is in the newly-set folder, just in case, before you delete the extra copies left behind.


One thing to note is that iTunes will automatically reset the library folder if you try to access files whose location is not available: e.g. when you so much as click on a listen file while your external hard drive is unplugged.

So do check before ripping, if you've removed the HDD; or if the HDD is still initialising, should you have just booted the system, which is the most common source of this sort of reset in my case.

(Meaning I boot the laptop, run iTunes, then realise the HDD has not caught up. )

[Novi]

Set iTunes to copy all files added to the library in the library folder, then reset the library folder to your external hard drive, and when it asks you whether it should update everything, say yes on both counts.

Then manually confirm that everything is in the newly-set folder, just in case, before you delete the extra copies left behind.


One thing to note is that iTunes will automatically reset the library folder if you try to access files whose location is not available: e.g. when you so much as click on a listen file while your external hard drive is unplugged.

So do check before ripping, if you've removed the HDD; or if the HDD is still initialising, should you have just booted the system, which is the most common source of this sort of reset in my case.

(Meaning I boot the laptop, run iTunes, then realise the HDD has not caught up. )

Thanks, Renfield. Haha, you know exactly where I've bungled up. Your instructions are clear; my ability to implement rather more dubious: newly set folder is empty. I think I'll leave it for now but thanks anyway.

And if you decide that you just want to stick to CDs Novi, there's a party going on right here! A celebration to last throughout the year. So bring your CDs, and that extra free time too, we're gonna celebrate your party with you. C'mon now! 

George, I'm this close to pitching the thing out the window...

[Opus106]

I don't know if this Consolidate iTunes Library option would help, but I recently had to play around with the setting when I had a similar problem. (iPod iTunes had its library set to one folder while the ALAC ripper (not iTunes! ) stored the stuff elsewhere.)

[George]

George, I'm this close to pitching the thing out the window...

Do it! 

[Renfield]

I don't know if this Consolidate iTunes Library option would help, but I recently had to play around with the setting when I had a similar problem. (iPod had its library set to one folder while the ALAC ripper (not iTunes! ) stored the stuff elsewhere.)

Aha!

Novi, this should be the straight, official way towards exactly what you want.

In fact, I'm noting it myself for future reference; it renders my awkward work-around quite moot.

[Novi]

I don't know if this Consolidate iTunes Library option would help, but I recently had to play around with the setting when I had a similar problem. (iPod iTunes had its library set to one folder while the ALAC ripper (not iTunes! ) stored the stuff elsewhere.)

Aha!

Novi, this should be the straight, official way towards exactly what you want.

In fact, I'm noting it myself for future reference; it renders my awkward work-around quite moot.

It worked! Thanks very much, everyone!

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

quick question

Getting ready to copy CDs onto external hard drive, for the first time. I've done some research and feel a bit paralyzed by all the acronyms and jargon and stuff.

So given that:

I use a PC and not a Mac, don't have and don't want an iPod, ideally would like to go lossless, and want to avoid laborious tagging, what should I use?

[Tapio Dmitriyevich]

I use a PC and not a Mac, don't have and don't want an iPod, ideally would like to go lossless, and want to avoid laborious tagging, what should I use?

Ideally you should have a scrict tagging scheme to have all advantage in a database based system. Anyway: foobar2000 (full install) plus encoders (flac from flac.sf.net, as for lossy lame from rarewares.org).
Foobar2000 full install because you need to install freedb tagger. This way it supports you in your tagging laziness, because it can receive a CDs tags from freedb.org.

[DavidW]

I use a PC and not a Mac, don't have and don't want an iPod, ideally would like to go lossless, and want to avoid laborious tagging, what should I use?

dBpoweramp uses several tagging services and even adds artwork.  But you have to pay for it.  It will also do flac (or even ape or alac) ripping for you securely.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Thanks guys. BTW this statement by drogulus above: WAV won't store your metadata

Does this mean I have to tag the files myself, or that it's impossible to tag them at all?

[DavidW]

Thanks guys. BTW this statement by drogulus above: WAV won't store your metadata

Does this mean I have to tag the files myself, or that it's impossible to tag them at all?

It is impossible to tag wav files, you should use flac which will take less room, but be lossless and support tagging including album artwork.

[Gurn Blanston]

quick question


I use a PC and not a Mac, don't have and don't want an iPod, ideally would like to go lossless, and want to avoid laborious tagging, what should I use?

I do the same. I strongly recommend FLAC. Among all its other virtues, it uses ID3 (the tag format that MP3's use). It is so identical to doing MP3's that I have a step in my checklist to make sure I am in FLAC mode and not MP3 (I do both because of my hardware).