Bach Six Partitas

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Mandryka

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Quote from: Selig on June 02, 2024, 02:46:39 AMAndrás Schiff 1st recording (light and sculpted, freedom and swing, brain firing on all cylinders with witty decision-making)



That style in that Schiff is exactly what she says it is. I know conservatory trained pianists who can't tolerate the individualism of it.
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Mandryka



I went back to this after being so disappointed with Tristano's new piano recording. It's really impressive, I'd forgotten how good Martin Gester is in this music. Why oh why can't pianists get the hang of polyphonic keyboard music?
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bioluminescentsquid

#282
Quote from: Mandryka on December 03, 2016, 05:06:21 AM

The incipit of this putative cycle is the B flat major suite, which I think has often been played quasi-gallantly by keyboardist. What I mean is it is voiced so as to avoid dissonance, and to bring out memorable melodies. I have sometimes even heard it played like simple domestic music, without grandiose and deeply meaningful gestures or symphonic colours.
 
Not so for Verlet in this her second recording.

I don't think anyone I know voices this music remotely like she does. The voices are staggered to create drama and the occasional dissonance. This is particularly effective in the heart of the music, the sarabande.  And memorable in the  closing gigue, which made me think of Haydn's clock - but unlike Haydn's clock Verlet's Bach never goes off the rails. Verlet's clock is . . . clockwork.

Her pacing tends to be slow, and her rhythms rather uninflected, and this give the impression of strength and weight.

It also gives the impression of po-faced constipation.

This is the least light, least graceful, least playful performance of the partita that I recall hearing.

Me no like.

I find myself coming back to this recording a lot these days. Looking back I posted about being unimpressed by it. (I searched for the word "constipation" to find this post) I like what you wrote a few posts down about how the playing feels labored and does not let us forget the physicality of the music making. Now something about its guilelessness is very refreshing and appealing. Much like Colin Tilney, Piet Wiersma, Oreste De Tommaso.

About Tilney, on the same lines.
Quote from: prémont on February 18, 2022, 10:14:21 AMTilney's "Contrapuntal Byrd" as well as his late Bach partitas have something in common, which I would name a frozen quality. One feels no sign of life and everything feels to stand still (maybe overstated, but exaggeration promotes the understanding). I recall some late recordings by Otto Klemperer with similar qualities. Maybe it's the tempo you live in when you have past the eight decade, but to me it is depressing and sleep-promoting. Things may soon enough stop forever.

Mandryka

#283
Quote from: bioluminescentsquid on November 30, 2024, 11:19:11 AMOreste De Tommaso.


Nice to be reminded of him! I shall listen to the Verlet again tomorrow hopefully, and post if I have anything worth saying.

Another one to add to the list is John Khouri maybe. No Bach though.
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bioluminescentsquid

Quote from: Mandryka on November 30, 2024, 12:09:18 PMAnother one to add to the list is John Khouri maybe. No Bach though.
I have only recently warmed to John Khouri. I am listening a lot to his Schubert these days. Awfully compelling passionate old piano smashing. I can't think of anyone who is quite like him in Bach!

Mandryka

By the way, I noticed that Blandine Verlet studied with Ruggero Gerlin - worth listening to some Gerlin possibly, I've been listing to his Scarlatti. I think she learned a thing or two from him.

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Mandryka




Serious, and rather beautiful. I think it's a real goodie.

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/65/000212856.pdf
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Leo K.

Quote from: Mandryka on July 31, 2025, 08:33:15 AM


Serious, and rather beautiful. I think it's a real goodie.

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/65/000212856.pdf
I agree. This set is very striking with the ebb and flow of her playing, I hear the feeling of free flowing force.

Mandryka

Quote from: Mandryka on November 20, 2024, 12:29:46 AM

I went back to this after being so disappointed with Tristano's new piano recording. It's really impressive, I'd forgotten how good Martin Gester is in this music. Why oh why can't pianists get the hang of polyphonic keyboard music?


https://www.martingester.com/2025/09/07/bach-clavier-%C3%BCbung-1/
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Selig


Mandryka

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Quote from: Selig on November 16, 2025, 08:14:16 PMhttps://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Bach-Johann-Sebastian-1685-1750_000000000002339/item_6-Partitas-Yoshiko-Ieki-Cemb-3UHQCD_16415430
Coming at the end of the month.

Looking at her discography, Ms. Ieki is clearly a big Ruckers fan  ;D

I discovered her years ago through a recording of English music. I wrote to her and she sent me her French Suites, which at the time were unavailable otherwise outside Japan. What she does is very pleasant, strong yet gentle and sweet, and mainstream. I haven't heard her other Bach.
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AnotherSpin

Quote from: Mandryka on November 17, 2025, 12:32:03 AMI discovered her years ago through a recording of English music. I wrote to her and she sent me her French Suites, which at the time were unavailable otherwise outside Japan. What she does is very pleasant, strong yet gentle and sweet, and mainstream. I haven't heard her other Bach.

I'm listening to her Goldberg Variations right now, actually, while I'm typing this. Quite remarkable, even though I'm only getting it through the tiny MacBook Air. The proper hi-fi is kaput again; they've cut the power for a half day, scheduled maintenance after another night-time visit from our lovely fraternal nation up in the northern swamps.