The Incredible Walter Piston (1894-1976)

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some guy

There has been one recording of the complete ballet, The Incredible Flutist. It's with Jorge Mester and the Louisville Orchestra on the Louisville label. (I just checked my CD. That was issued through the Albany label.)

It is ausgezeichnet.

I don't find MTT's performance of the second symphony to be nearly as good as Schwarz's. The sound is better, but the performance seems tepid compared to Schwarz's.




TheGSMoeller

Quote from: some guy on March 01, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
There has been one recording of the complete ballet, The Incredible Flutist. It's with Jorge Mester and the Louisville Orchestra on the Louisville label. (I just checked my CD. That was issued through the Albany label.)

It is ausgezeichnet.


Is this the one?




Octave

I saw a Valis disc with FLUTIST by Arthur Fiedler w/Boston Pops, a recording from 1939; is that a truncated version of the ballets?  SQ1 (Dorian, 1939) and SYMPH4 (Ormandy, 1954) were also on that disc.
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some guy

That's the one. Though my copy has this cover.



The Fiedler is the suite, far as I can tell.

Karl Henning

Thanks, gents.

Incidentally . . . the Naxos CD's notes are a little unclear . . . is the Concerto for SQ, Winds & Perc his very last score?


Hm, Naxos really dropped the ball with this CD . . . no indication of what chorus is singing the last two tracks.
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Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on March 04, 2013, 09:46:52 AM
Thanks, gents.

Incidentally . . . the Naxos CD's notes are a little unclear . . . is the Concerto for SQ, Winds & Perc his very last score?


Hm, Naxos really dropped the ball with this CD . . . no indication of what chorus is singing the last two tracks.

I think so on the Concerto. I especially like that piece... Piston and Schuman both had nice Indian Summers.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Re-thinking

Quote from: Velimir on April 04, 2010, 02:53:41 AM
I had the chamber music on Naxos, but got rid of it - too dry and yes, "academic."

This thread though inspired me to dig it out (I hadn't got rid of it after all!) and give it another go. I like it better now - the two quintets are the standouts - but I still have trouble with the gloomy later works. Maybe they'll click someday. Piston's finales remind me of Martinu's, which is a good thing.

Quote from: some guy on March 01, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
I don't find MTT's performance of the second symphony to be nearly as good as Schwarz's.

I seem to be one of the few people who agrees with you on this.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Karl Henning

Well, I should listen to Schwarz's performance of the Second soon . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: karlhenning on March 05, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
Well, I should listen to Schwarz's performance of the Second soon . . . .

..er than later.  ;)

I'm glad Piston has been getting some well deserved attention. Been enjoying re-visiting these pieces, especially Flutist. Will more than likely get the full ballet SomeGuy mentioned.

Only symphonies I have, or have even heard are 2,4 and 6. Anyone know of the others were recorded?

some guy

I have a Louisville First Edition Series with 5, 7, and 8.

I don't recall ever seeing 1 or 3.

Your mileage may vary in regards to the ballet. All I know is that that would be one of my desert island discs. I mean, assuming that the island had electricity. And that I had a player with me, too, when deserted.

Daverz

Quote from: some guy on March 06, 2013, 09:04:25 AM
I don't recall ever seeing 1 or 3.

The Louisville recording of 1 was re-issued by Albany.

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There's also good modern recording of 3 on Albany. 

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You can download a transfer of the old Howard Hanson recording from Naxos.  Decent transfer, but I thought they could have found a better copy of the record.


Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

I told you I would, and I did!

What a great piece!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on March 15, 2013, 04:55:59 AM
I told you I would, and I did!

What a great piece!

YES! Both the later pieces are wonderfully knotty. Leslie Bassett has a Sextet that has a similarly darkish mood. As far as 'serialism light' goes, Piston really invests it with

nevermind, haha,... glad to hear you popped that one!

Karl Henning

Yes, tremendously gutsy piece. But I observe that he ends the Sextet with a major triad ; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

What a wonderful work Symphony No. 2 is. One of the great American symphonies I think.
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Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: vandermolen on October 12, 2014, 02:53:31 AM
What a wonderful work Symphony No. 2 is. One of the great American symphonies I think.

Agreed, wonderful work. I heard Slatkin/CSO do it a few years ago.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

vandermolen

Quote from: Velimir on October 13, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
Agreed, wonderful work. I heard Slatkin/CSO do it a few years ago.
Must have been great to hear live.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

Quote from: vandermolen on October 12, 2014, 02:53:31 AM
What a wonderful work Symphony No. 2 is. One of the great American symphonies I think.
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Piston's 2nd is a fine work indeed, Jeffrey. Cheers!

Rons_talking

Quote from: Daverz on April 04, 2010, 08:24:20 PM
The thread has inspired a Pistonethon.  The Viola Concerto, the Symphonies 5, 7 & 8; and the String Quartet No. 5.  Maybe I'm easy to please, but I enjoy all the symphonies.  These Whitney/Louisville Orchestra recordings are quite good.



I agree that the Viola Concerto and 7th and 8th Symphonies are first rate works. I've been streaming Piston all day; the works that grabbed me were the 3rd and 7th Symphonies as well as the New England Sketches and Viola Concerto. The way his music always sounds somewhat tonal yet chromatic, not to be dissonant, rather, to accentuate line and melodic jumps, is impressive. The slow movements are so expressive--his strength IMO.