Arizona Immigration Bill

[Fëanor]

I'm tired of hearing about how minorities will one day rule this country thru greater numbers.  Here's an idea for whites who own this view - have more babies.

Indeed.  The day when White Chrisitian defined American are over.  Quite soon white Amerians will be a minority.  But it won't really be an "us" and "them" thing: your son will marry an oriental Buddist, your daughter an Arab Muslim. Increasingly they will be us.

[Xenophanes]

Here's a quicker and more efficient system: secure the goddamn borders. You don't have a country if you don't have borders. Can it possibly be any simpler? As for whites having more babies, feminist propaganda and the attack on the family unit has taken care of that a long time ago. Its a lost cause. We are going the way of the dodo.

Feminist propaganda? Ever hear of the pill?

Attack on the family unit? What you don't know about the traditional family unit would fill volumes.  Male dominated families, women the property of the male (hell, that's alluded to in the Ten Commandments, where the wives are listen among the chattels (Ex. 20:17), arranged non-voluntary marriages, the father controlling the extended family, etc.  Maybe that's what you want . . .

Two main things brought about the decline of the bad old traditional family. First, the Industrial Revolution and the rise of wage labour.  The offspring could earn their own living and so were no longer so dependent upon the father and the family business.  Second, the Enlightenment, with ideas about equality and freedom, including the freedom to choose one's spouse.

It took about 150 years to bring about the modern family, and unless you make drastic changes to the economy, we're not going back to the old ways. Try learning something for a change.

Here's a link to an article by someone who has studied the history of marriage, Stephanie Coontz:

http://stephaniecoontz.com/articles/article25.htm

If it's too much trouble to read, you can always listen to an interview with Ms. Coontz:

http://www.onpointradio.org/2005/06/a-history-of-marriage

Face it: marriage has changed a lot over the last 3000 years.

[Scarpia]

Indeed.  The day when White Chrisitian defined American are over.  Quite soon white Amerians will be a minority.  But it won't really be an "us" and "them" thing: your son will marry an oriental Buddist, your daughter an Arab Muslim. Increasingly they will be us.

Shall we join up with you in the Klu Klux Klan then?

[Bulldog]

Here's a quicker and more efficient system: secure the goddamn borders. You don't have a country if you don't have borders. Can it possibly be any simpler? As for whites having more babies, feminist propaganda and the attack on the family unit has taken care of that a long time ago. Its a lost cause. We are going the way of the dodo.

Yes, "whites in charge" will be history.  You might as well get used to the idea.

[Josquin des Prez]

Indeed.  The day when White Chrisitian defined American are over.  Quite soon white Amerians will be a minority.  But it won't really be an "us" and "them" thing: your son will marry an oriental Buddist, your daughter an Arab Muslim. Increasingly they will be us.

Except they will not be us. They will most likely be themselves, and us, meaning western civilization, will lie buried in the heaps of history, dead and forgotten. The America that you know now, with its constitution, and its scientific and social mission is and always has been a cultural extension stemming from the white majority. Once that majority will become a minority, things will change drastically to reflect the new demographic change. What do you think would happen to Europe for instance if Islam were to become the dominant demographic force? Do you think they would preserve our Christian heritage, or our cultural achievements? Or will they destroy it, and replace it with their own cultural artifacts? Imagine a world with no Bach, no Beethoven, no western culture whatsoever. Our history, gone. Our art, gone. Our memory, gone. That is the future we will most likely face. We will not be traveling the stars preaching tolerance and equality like in some sort of Star Trek utopian fantasy. Everything we know and cherish will simply disappear. All thanks to lunatics such as yourself who are helping speeding up the process for the dissolution of western civilization i might add. You ought to be very proud of yourself.

[Josquin des Prez]

Yes, "whites in charge" will be history.  You might as well get used to the idea.

Have you gotten used to the idea yet? Don't forget you and your children are going down with the rest of us.

[Josquin des Prez]

Feminist propaganda? Ever hear of the pill?

Minorities have the pill as well.

Male dominated families, women the property of the male

As opposed to women being property of the state. I'm sure they are much happier now that they have been "liberated" from the authority of their husbands and fathers. That is why western women are among the most neurotic, hysterical and depressed creatures you'll ever find.

(hell, that's alluded to in the Ten Commandments, where the wives are listen among the chattels (Ex. 20:17), arranged non-voluntary marriages, the father controlling the extended family, etc.  Maybe that's what you want . . .

Quit pulling strawmen out of you ass.

Two main things brought about the decline of the bad old traditional family. First, the Industrial Revolution and the rise of wage labour.  The offspring could earn their own living and so were no longer so dependent upon the father and the family business.  Second, the Enlightenment, with ideas about equality and freedom, including the freedom to choose one's spouse.

And i'm sure you probably believe all this has had a positive impact upon the quality of life of humanity in general. Nothing like living as a single automaton, bound to serve the state as a wage slave, who's only goal in life is to satisfy the consumerist imperative created by the industrial machine in the first place, when not wasting away in vice and substance abuse. What a wonderful society we have created, how enlightened we are as we waist in the bile on our own decadence. Bravo, bravo indeed.

It took about 150 years to bring about the modern family, and unless you make drastic changes to the economy, we're not going back to the old ways. Try learning something for a change.

There is no modern family. Western culture is moving towards the dissolution of all forms of familiar connections. Fathers have already been completely weeded out of the equation, what with our 50% divorce rate and growing. Single mothers have become pawn of the state, and the government has extended ownership to the children for all intended purposes. The state will provide all the education needed to create the perfect working bee, and entire concept of interpersonal relationship among people will slowly fade out of existence. Men and women will join to copulate, and nothing more, while children will grew up without any form of personal attachment to any particular adult. Its already happening, get used to it, and try to learn something for a change. The state demands it.

Here's a link to an article by someone who has studied the history of marriage, Stephanie Coontz:

I think i have better things to do then read up Marxist propaganda and historical revisionism. Thank you very much.

[Lethevich]

western women are among the most neurotic, hysterical and depressed creatures you'll ever find.

Oh, this is rich...

[Que]

This thread is turning/ has turned into one of JdP's hysterical, neurotic and depressed rants again, and is closed.

Q