Who said there aren't any hot female pianists?

[hornteacher]

Why must some people assume that when others marvel at the beauty of a female artist that we are incapable of acknowledging their musical talent?  I contend that some of the most talented musicians in the classical world are often discriminated against BECAUSE of their physical beauty.  The close-minded tend to write them off as visual treats with little musical substance and grouping really talented musicians such as Hahn, Jansen, Mutter, Fischer, and others with the lightweight crossover artists like Bond and Charlotte Church.  This in my mind is not only an inaccurate comparison but borders on some sort of reverse sexism.

Believe it or not, talent and beauty CAN go together and I do not feel less of a person for acknowledging that a female artist has both.

[Josquin des Prez]

some sort of reverse sexism.

Please. 

The close-minded tend to write them off as visual treats with little musical substance

Is this another one of those 'free thinkers' tirades?

[Bonehelm]

Why must some people assume that when others marvel at the beauty of a female artist that we are incapable of acknowledging their musical talent?  I contend that some of the most talented musicians in the classical world are often discriminated against BECAUSE of their physical beauty.  The close-minded tend to write them off as visual treats with little musical substance and grouping really talented musicians such as Hahn, Jansen, Mutter, Fischer, and others with the lightweight crossover artists like Bond and Charlotte Church.  This in my mind is not only an inaccurate comparison but borders on some sort of reverse sexism.

Believe it or not, talent and beauty CAN go together and I do not feel less of a person for acknowledging that a female artist has both.

Amen.

[hornteacher]

Is this another one of those 'free thinkers' tirade?

Nope, just my opinion.  I am totally comfortable in acknowledging the physical beauty of a woman without feeling like I am degenerating into a knuckle dragging primate.

[Steve]

Please. 

Is this another one of those 'free thinkers' tirades?

This should just be moved to the diner. We discuss the merits of musicians and their works on the other boards while The 'Diner' is reserved for all things 'music excepted'.

[Daverz]

We had a long thread like this on the old forum.



Pianist Cristiana Pegoraro

[Mozart]

We had a long thread like this on the old forum.



Pianist Cristiana Pegoraro

meh...

[Steve]

meh...

lol 

[mahlertitan]

What matters what they look like? It's all in the playing, and sad to say, more then half of those 'cover bimbos' that get recorded today are average at best. You guys are such drooling nerds...

well, good looking ones might draw more crowds, so they make more money; and more importantly the good looking ones can appeal to people who don't really listen that much classical, and spark their interest in classical music.

[Steve]

well, good looking ones might draw more crowds, so they make more money; and more importantly the good looking ones can appeal to people who don't really listen that much classical, and spark their interest in classical music.

That might be a bit of a stretch.   

Do we really need to defend the idea of a group of men discussing beautiful women?

[Bonehelm]

That might be a bit of a stretch.   

Do we really need to defend the idea of a group of men discussing beautiful women?

I agree; it's completely natural. 

[Tsaraslondon]

Isn't this whole topic a littlse sexist. I see no similar post dedicated to dishy male musiciains. Or don't any exist?

[Steve]

Isn't this whole topic a littlse sexist. I see no similar post dedicated to dishy male musiciains. Or don't any exist?

Last I checked, the ratio of men to women was about 13:1. 

[Grazioso]

Isn't this whole topic a littlse sexist. I see no similar post dedicated to dishy male musiciains. Or don't any exist?

Nothing sexist about admiring a woman's (or person's beauty). It's only sexist if you make negative generalizations about someone who belongs to a certain gender, solely on the basis of that membership.

Admiring someone's physical beauty is natural and normal. It's what we're wired to do biologically, even outside of the aesthetic or philosophical concerns of the poets who have celebrated fair ladies in their art since time immemorial.

For my part, I have enormous admiration for physical beauty. I'm surrounded by smart, talented people all the time and take that, more or less, for granted, but stunning physical beauty is a relatively rare and very fleeting thing worth veneration--if not some drool 

[Tsaraslondon]

Nothing sexist about admiring a woman's (or person's beauty). It's only sexist if you make negative generalizations about someone who belongs to a certain gender, solely on the basis of that membership.

Admiring someone's physical beauty is natural and normal. It's what we're wired to do biologically, even outside of the aesthetic or philosophical concerns of the poets who have celebrated fair ladies in their art since time immemorial.

For my part, I have enormous admiration for physical beauty. I'm surrounded by smart, talented people all the time and take that, more or less, for granted, but stunning physical beauty is a relatively rare and very fleeting thing worth veneration--if not some drool 

For the most part I agree. I'm just not sure such discussions have a place on a Classical Music Forum, unless it be in The Diner, a section, incidentally, I never read.

[orbital]

Who said there aren't any hot female pianists?

I want to say:

"You! You said so"
a la Manya

[mahlertitan]

Last I checked, the ratio of men to women was about 13:1. 

only 13:1? we are making progress here.

[Sergeant Rock]

only 13:1? we are making progress here.

I should ask Mrs. Rock to rejoin. We could get that ratio down to 12.9:1

Sarge

[Sergeant Rock]

What matters what they look like? It's all in the playing, and sad to say, more then half of those 'cover bimbos' that get recorded today are average at best. You guys are such drooling nerds...

A man who appreciates female beauty is a drooling nerd? Wow. I learn something new every day. Really, I just thought it made him not gay 

Sarge

[not edward]

A man who appreciates female beauty is a drooling nerd? Wow. I learn something new every day. Really, I just thought it made him not gay 

Sarge

Actually, some of the gay guys I've known have been better at appreciating female beauty than the straight guys, who're too busy pounding on their chest and going ME SO SMART, ME SO HUNKY to notice anything beyond the very obvious.