Dmitri's Dacha

[brewski]

Just got word of this new release with Symphonies 8, 9, and 10 from the Berlin Philharmonic and conductor Kirill Petrenko. (The recordings were made on 31 October 2020, 13 November 2020 and 29 October 2021 at the Philharmonie Berlin.)

More info here.



-Bruce

[Roasted Swan]

Just got word of this new release with Symphonies 8, 9, and 10 from the Berlin Philharmonic and conductor Kirill Petrenko. (The recordings were made on 31 October 2020, 13 November 2020 and 29 October 2021 at the Philharmonie Berlin.)

More info here.



-Bruce

Just got a superlative-laden review on MusicWeb.........

[LKB]

Anyone hear the BPO in concert lately? Last time for me was in 2017 with Rattle, and they were mostly boring in Mahler's Seventh.

( Asking as I've pretty much ignored them since then, perhaps Petrenko has made them interesting again. )

[Maestro267]

Just finished going through the string quartets in order. Fascinating that the 15th String Quartet closes with an allusion to the Largo of Symphony No. 6, an allusion which also features in the second movement of the 15th Symphony.

I've also got a box coming in the week which includes most of the chamber music that isn't the string quartets. So the Piano Quintet, Trio No. 2, and the sonatas for violin, viola, cello, and piano.

[brewski]

Anyone hear the BPO in concert lately? Last time for me was in 2017 with Rattle, and they were mostly boring in Mahler's Seventh.

( Asking as I've pretty much ignored them since then, perhaps Petrenko has made them interesting again. )

Missed this from a few months ago. I'll be hearing them live next month (though not in person), via their Digital Concert Hall in the program below. I have heard a few broadcasts with Petrenko (coincidentally, the Mahler 7 when they were at Carnegie in the spring) and think he's a terrific choice for the ensemble at this moment.

Berliner Philharmoniker
Kirill Petrenko conductor
Christian Gerhaher baritone

Xenakis - Jonchaies for orchestra
Karl Amadeus Hartmann - Gesangsszene based on words from Sodom und Gomorrah by Jean Giraudoux
Márton Illés - Lég-szín-tér (Premiere)
Kurtág - Stele for large orchestra, op. 33

-Bruce

[brewski]

Just finished going through the string quartets in order. Fascinating that the 15th String Quartet closes with an allusion to the Largo of Symphony No. 6, an allusion which also features in the second movement of the 15th Symphony.

Thanks for that tidbit, which I did not realize!

-Bruce

[Madiel]

I've also got a box coming in the week which includes most of the chamber music that isn't the string quartets. So the Piano Quintet, Trio No. 2, and the sonatas for violin, viola, cello, and piano.

What box is this?

[Maestro267]

Brilliant Classics box

[Papy Oli]

Besides a slight familiarity with Nos. 5 & 9, I am slowly dipping a proper toe in Shostakovich's symphonies through 3 of the 4 cycles I own (Kondrashin, Haitink, Jansons) with parallel maiden traversals in each of them (I also own Barshai and did one traversal many years ago but that never clicked with me).

So far, I have preferred Haitink followed by Kondrashin in No.1 last week.
Today Jansons led the pack in No.2.

Out of curiosity, which symphonies are usually considered (or do you consider) as the strongest in each of those cycles please? 


PS: Off my shelves, I otherwise really enjoy Chailly's Jazz and Dance albums and also remember liking the Preludes by Deyanova. I need to revisit BAT's Trios. As for Pacifica's SQ, well... it will be a very cautious approach when the time comes

[Roasted Swan]

Besides a slight familiarity with Nos. 5 & 9, I am slowly dipping a proper toe in Shostakovich's symphonies through 3 of the 4 cycles I own (Kondrashin, Haitink, Jansons) with parallel maiden traversals in each of them (I also own Barshai and did one traversal many years ago but that never clicked with me).

So far, I have preferred Haitink followed by Kondrashin in No.1 last week.
Today Jansons led the pack in No.2.

Out of curiosity, which symphonies are usually considered (or do you consider) as the strongest in each of those cycles please? 


PS: Off my shelves, I otherwise really enjoy Chailly's Jazz and Dance albums and also remember liking the Preludes by Deyanova. I need to revisit BAT's Trios. As for Pacifica's SQ, well... it will be a very cautious approach when the time comes

Barshai's 13 is stunning.  Kondrashin in 8 & 11 and some others probably too.  Jansons I have but actually don't really "know" at all but it seems to garner high praise.  I love the sound of the Concertgebouw for Haitink but as a general rule I prefer the more manic Soviet approach to Haitink's epic style.  His LPO/10 is fine.

[vandermolen]

Barshai's 13 is stunning.  Kondrashin in 8 & 11 and some others probably too.  Jansons I have but actually don't really "know" at all but it seems to garner high praise.  I love the sound of the Concertgebouw for Haitink but as a general rule I prefer the more manic Soviet approach to Haitink's epic style.  His LPO/10 is fine.

Haitink is supreme in 13 IMO but, in general, I agree with your preference for the 'more manic Soviet approach...'

[Madiel]

I'll keep my calm Russian Vasily Petrenko, thanks.

[relm1]

Haitink is supreme in 13 IMO but, in general, I agree with your preference for the 'more manic Soviet approach...'

I still think Okko Kamu is superior to Haitink 13 but know it's hard to get hold of.  Have you heard that one Jeffrey?  It isn't a more manic Soviet approach but probably a more Astro-bohemian (Mahler) approach.  More emphasis on drama and struggle than on sarcasm and satire.  The Kamu ending just feels so existentially uncertain which I think best fits this work. 

[vandermolen]

I still think Okko Kamu is superior to Haitink 13 but know it's hard to get hold of.  Have you heard that one Jeffrey?  It isn't a more manic Soviet approach but probably a more Astro-bohemian (Mahler) approach.  More emphasis on drama and struggle than on sarcasm and satire.  The Kamu ending just feels so existentially uncertain which I think best fits this work. 

No, but I'd love to hear it. What label is it on?

[Irons]

Previn should not be forgotten in 4 & 8.

[Karl Henning]

Previn should not be forgotten in 4 & 8.

Love that Previn/Chicago Opus 43!

[Roasted Swan]

No, but I'd love to hear it. What label is it on?

Chandos with the CBSO



BIG choral group which is always effective in this piece I reckon

[vandermolen]

Chandos with the CBSO



BIG choral group which is always effective in this piece I reckon

Many thanks RS - must look out for that one.
We visited the site of Babi Yar when we went to Kyiv.
PS Was there ever a CD release?

[relm1]

Many thanks RS - must look out for that one.
We visited the site of Babi Yar when we went to Kyiv.
PS Was there ever a CD release?

Yes, this was on CD in the 90's.  I have the CD. 

[relm1]

Chandos with the CBSO



BIG choral group which is always effective in this piece I reckon

Also, a fabulous deep, rich soloist.  Sometimes they sound like tenors.  Hmm, interesting, so three different choirs are credited I notice.