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« Reply #2700 on: September 29, 2021, 05:30:11 PM »
Thanks for the refresh, John. very much enjoyed them, as I knew I should.

My pleasure, Karl. 8)
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« Reply #2701 on: September 30, 2021, 04:31:29 AM »
Thanks for sharing that John. I listened to Bernstein's talk on Shostakovich's 6th symphony along Hurwitz's review of his favourite 6th recordings. It really is a great symphony, along with the 9th, which are both vastly over shadowed by any of the other symphonies between 4th and 11th.

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« Reply #2702 on: September 30, 2021, 05:18:45 AM »
Speaking of the 6th symphony, what would be folks' recommendations on the performance that has the bleakest, blackest, darkest, hopeless Adagio 1st movement?  :D

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« Reply #2703 on: September 30, 2021, 05:31:01 AM »
Thanks for sharing that John. I listened to Bernstein's talk on Shostakovich's 6th symphony along Hurwitz's review of his favourite 6th recordings. It really is a great symphony, along with the 9th, which are both vastly over shadowed by any of the other symphonies between 4th and 11th.

Glad you enjoyed them, Ray. Yeah, I think both the 6th and 9th are fine symphonies. Great stuff.

Speaking of the 6th symphony, what would be folks' recommendations on the performance that has the bleakest, blackest, darkest, hopeless Adagio 1st movement?  :D

Kondrashin and Rozhdestvensky certainly qualify here I would think. Mravinsky's 6th isn't exactly sunshine either. ;)
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« Reply #2704 on: September 30, 2021, 01:41:36 PM »
Speaking of the 6th symphony, what would be folks' recommendations on the performance that has the bleakest, blackest, darkest, hopeless Adagio 1st movement?  :D

The first movement is a Largo...Hurwitz got it wrong. Sanderling and Caetani are really dark.

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« Reply #2705 on: September 30, 2021, 03:19:36 PM »
Speaking of the 6th symphony, what would be folks' recommendations on the performance that has the bleakest, blackest, darkest, hopeless Adagio 1st movement?  :D

I thought the Bernstein DG was the darkest but in retrospect, it might be the most romantic given Serge's remarks.  I'll have to explore those others that are really dark.

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« Reply #2706 on: October 02, 2021, 04:48:02 PM »
I love it immensely great performance of Belarus RTV orchestra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xp7f_hnEPo

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« Reply #2707 on: October 03, 2021, 12:03:34 AM »
Speaking of the 6th symphony, what would be folks' recommendations on the performance that has the bleakest, blackest, darkest, hopeless Adagio 1st movement?  :D
I liked Neeme Jarvi's recording.
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« Reply #2708 on: October 05, 2021, 01:44:28 PM »
This documentary is definitely worth a viewing:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8</a>

I'll be getting my popcorn ready for tonight as I plan to watch it. A BBC production. Looks like a good one.
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« Reply #2709 on: October 05, 2021, 05:11:49 PM »
This documentary is definitely worth a viewing:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8</a>

I'll be getting my popcorn ready for tonight as I plan to watch it. A BBC production. Looks like a good one.

Something like that?

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« Reply #2710 on: October 05, 2021, 05:13:28 PM »
Something like that?



Ummm....

Ummmmmmmm........ ??? :blank: :D
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« Reply #2711 on: October 05, 2021, 05:13:50 PM »
Have you seen this documentary, Cesar?
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« Reply #2712 on: October 05, 2021, 05:19:04 PM »
Have you seen this documentary, Cesar?

Not yet, John, but it certainly looks enticing. How many secrets did Shostakovich bring with him to death?
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« Reply #2713 on: October 05, 2021, 05:36:28 PM »
Not yet, John, but it certainly looks enticing. How many secrets did Shostakovich bring with him to death?

We'll never know, but if his music is any indication, there were no secrets. :) It's all in the music.
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« Reply #2714 on: October 06, 2021, 05:41:24 PM »
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« Reply #2715 on: October 06, 2021, 07:06:12 PM »
That's a good documentary, Karl. I've got it on DVD. 8)
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« Reply #2716 on: October 07, 2021, 08:23:34 AM »
That's a good documentary, Karl. I've got it on DVD. 8)

I've been meaning forever to watch this series.
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« Reply #2717 on: October 07, 2021, 08:27:32 AM »
I've been meaning forever to watch this series.

It is such a great series Karl.  Although I haven't seen all episodes.  I wish MTT would reboot the series with some new episodes.

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« Reply #2718 on: October 07, 2021, 10:55:45 AM »
This documentary is definitely worth a viewing:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KOkBEqtGUI8</a>

I'll be getting my popcorn ready for tonight as I plan to watch it. A BBC production. Looks like a good one.

Excellent.
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« Reply #2719 on: October 07, 2021, 11:05:27 AM »
Excellent.

I enjoyed the documentary, but some of the details could've been left out. I think any one with a knowledge of history can read about how horrible the whole Siege of Leningrad was, but the musical aspect of the film was the most enjoyable.
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