Dmitri's Dacha

[Leo K.]

                                                                                                                                                         
Neeme Järvi's account of the Shostakovich 7 is now my favorite 7th. Wow. I really like that it moves along faster then a lot of other recordings. Also, the Violin Concerto No.2 is so incredible and devastating. I've been listening to various recordings of the No.2 - great stuff all.

[vandermolen]

                                                                                                                                                         
Neeme Järvi's account of the Shostakovich 7 is now my favorite 7th. Wow. I really like that it moves along faster then a lot of other recordings. Also, the Violin Concerto No.2 is so incredible and devastating. I've been listening to various recordings of the No.2 - great stuff all.

Yes, It's a fine version.

[Mirror Image]

Yes, It's a fine version.

+ 1 I love all of Järvi's Shostakovich recordings or, at least, the ones I own.

[vandermolen]

+ 1 I love all of Järvi's Shostakovich recordings or, at least, the ones I own.

Me too John, especially no 4 and 8.

[Leo K.]

Me too John, especially no 4 and 8.

I have No.8 now too, and plan to listen to this soon.

[foxandpeng]

+ 1 I love all of Järvi's Shostakovich recordings or, at least, the ones I own.

Me, four. Quality stuff.

[Leo K.]

Yevgeny Nesterenko, bass
USSR Radio and TV Symphony Orchestra
Maxim Shostakovich, conductor
Recorded in 1975
(2 CD release by the label Venezia with seldom recorded song cycles)

I've been enjoying the Suite on Verses of Michelangelo Buonarroti, Opus.145 (orchestral version) - I always imagine this as the 16th Symphony (Wikipedia, citing: Derek C. Hulme, Dmitri Shostakovich Catalogue: The First Hundred Years and Beyond, p. 555).

What a work of power and descriptive orchestration! I haven't followed along with the text yet - just listening to the music first, soaking it all in.

[Karl Henning]

Yevgeny Nesterenko, bass
USSR Radio and TV Symphony Orchestra
Maxim Shostakovich, conductor
Recorded in 1975
(2 CD release by the label Venezia with seldom recorded song cycles)

I've been enjoying the Suite on Verses of Michelangelo Buonarroti, Opus.145 (orchestral version) - I always imagine this as the 16th Symphony (Wikipedia, citing: Derek C. Hulme, Dmitri Shostakovich Catalogue: The First Hundred Years and Beyond, p. 555).

What a work of power and descriptive orchestration! I haven't followed along with the text yet - just listening to the music first, soaking it all in.

Magnificent!

[relm1]

Yevgeny Nesterenko, bass
USSR Radio and TV Symphony Orchestra
Maxim Shostakovich, conductor
Recorded in 1975
(2 CD release by the label Venezia with seldom recorded song cycles)

I've been enjoying the Suite on Verses of Michelangelo Buonarroti, Opus.145 (orchestral version) - I always imagine this as the 16th Symphony (Wikipedia, citing: Derek C. Hulme, Dmitri Shostakovich Catalogue: The First Hundred Years and Beyond, p. 555).

What a work of power and descriptive orchestration! I haven't followed along with the text yet - just listening to the music first, soaking it all in.

It's much more complicated. 

"According to reports circulating in the West shortly before Shostakovich's death,
he was said to have completed two movements of a Sixteenth Symphony. A brief
report in Soviet Weekly, April 1976, announced that 'Shostakovich's last work' had
been performed in a completion and orchestration by Andrei Petrov. Nonetheless
no such arrangement appears in the 1980 catalogue of Petrov's own compositions
– and the composer's son, Maxim, reinforced that no such work was known to him.
However, Maxim Shostakovich told Evgeni Nesterenko during the rehearsals for the
'Suite on Verses of Michelangelo Buonarroti', Op. 145, that his father considered
Op.145 to be his Sixteenth Symphony."

https://www.sikorski.de/media/files/1/12/190/249/336/8953/schostakowitsch_werkverzeichnis.pdf?src=files/1/12/190/249/336/8953/schostakowitsch_werkverzeichnis.pdf

Frankly, I don't buy that op. 145 was what Shostakovich meant as his No. 16 but rather that he considered the song cycle symphonic in scope.  Our problem with this is the noise Solomon Volkov introduced at that time which influenced Maxim as well.  Virtually everyone distanced themselves from Volkov later, but the damage was done. Basically, I'm very suspicious of this attribution being legitimate. 

[Karl Henning]

Frankly, I don't buy that op. 145 was what Shostakovich meant as his No. 16 but rather that he considered the song cycle symphonic in scope.

That's basically how I read the remark.

[Leo K.]

Fascinating! Thank you for that further information!

[Madiel]

Well I could buy it was the 16th symphony given the nature of the 13th and the 14th.

I must listen to it again soon. I have both the piano and orchestral versions and have vague memories of preferring the orchestral.

[Leo K.]

Wow! This is a incredible recording.

[Leo K.]

I'm becoming a fan of the Petrenko box - listening to the 6th right now. Aces all around. Love that trill motive in the first movement, makes me recall Beethoven's late style.

[Maestro267]

A great cycle. I collected the individual discs over the years it was released.

[relm1]

I'm becoming a fan of the Petrenko box - listening to the 6th right now. Aces all around. Love that trill motive in the first movement, makes me recall Beethoven's late style.

I thought very highly of his No. 5 which is saying alot considering how many classic and excellent versions exist. 

[vers la flamme]

I'm becoming a fan of the Petrenko box - listening to the 6th right now. Aces all around. Love that trill motive in the first movement, makes me recall Beethoven's late style.

I listened to it the other day. I'll have to listen again today or tomorrow.

[Lisztianwagner]

Wow! This is a incredible recording.

+1

I'm becoming a fan of the Petrenko box - listening to the 6th right now. Aces all around. Love that trill motive in the first movement, makes me recall Beethoven's late style.

I share your view, Petrenko's Shostakovich box set is absolutely stunning, one of the best I've listened along with the Haitink and the Jansons.

[vandermolen]

I remember Shostakovich's death in 1975 and newspaper reports that he was working on his 16th Symphony.

[relm1]

I remember Shostakovich's death in 1975 and newspaper reports that he was working on his 16th Symphony.

And I remember reading that this Soviet composer had arranged the first two movements of the 16th Symphony into a performable version, but I can't remember his name or find further details.  Petrov?

https://youtu.be/25GX2XNXg-M?t=19

During the 2015 premiere of Orango, the musicologist said there were boxes of unlabeled sketches and unfinished scores from Shostakovich where from time to time they make a big discovery (Orango was one of them).  Who knows, maybe the unfinished and unlabeled sketches of No. 16 are there.