Carl Schuricht Collection

[rw1883]

Has anyone taken the plunge and bought/heard this set?

http://www.cduniverse.com/images.asp?pid=7364764&style=classical&image=front&title=Stuttgart+Radio+Symp+%2D+Carl+Schuricht+Collection+%2D+Historical+Recordings+1950%2D1966+CD

CDuniverse seems to have the best price.  I just finished listening to the 2-cd Great Conductors set and really enjoyed it, especially the Bruckner 8.  The other set I could have bought is the 10-cd set on Scribendum.  Berkshire had it for such a long time that I was fooled it would forever be there!

[MishaK]

If you're interested in Schuricht's art, you might want to start with the less expensive Decca Original Masters set.

I haven't heard the entire Hänssler set. I think I only have the Bruckner 4th that is included there. While Schuricht had a long and fruitful relationship with the SWR Symphony Orchestra, I would have to say that orchestra just wasn't that spectacular in the 50s/60s. It is much better today, but in the 50s/60s it was quite scratchy. If you go from that fantastic VPO Bruckner 8th on the Great Conductors set to any of the SWR performances it will be a bit of a letdown as far as orchestral execution is concerned, so I am not sure I would splurge and buy the whole set (though I have been eyeing his Mahler 3rd and Alpensinfonie).

The Scribendum set (I suppose you mean this?) is mostly old historic live performances from the 30s with corresponding sound quality. There is an almost complete Beethoven cycle with various orchestras, some Bruckner and assorted odds and ends, including a Lied von der Erde with the Concertgebouw. These are historically interesting and musically compelling performances, but Schuricht can be heard in most of this repertoire in far better sound on more recent recordings.

The Decca Original Masters set, by contrast, is all studio recordings from the 60s in great sound. It includes a fantastic Brahms 2 with the VPO, assorted Schumann, Schubert, Mendelssohn and Beethoven, as well as a phenomenal Brahms VC with Ferras. There is one duplication with what you have already, however, in that the Schubert Unfinished is the same as from the Great Conductors set.

You should also consider his excellent Beethoven cycle with the Conservatoire Orchestra.

In addition to the VPO Bruckner 8th which you aready have, Schuricht also recorded the 3rd and the 9th with the VPO. The former is available from amazon, but the 9th seems to be available only in Japan. I don't have the 3rd, but the 9th is outstanding.

[Hector]

If you're interested in Schuricht's art, you might want to start with the less expensive Decca Original Masters set.

I haven't heard the entire Hänssler set. I think I only have the Bruckner 4th that is included there. While Schuricht had a long and fruitful relationship with the SWR Symphony Orchestra, I would have to say that orchestra just wasn't that spectacular in the 50s/60s. It is much better today, but in the 50s/60s it was quite scratchy. If you go from that fantastic VPO Bruckner 8th on the Great Conductors set to any of the SWR performances it will be a bit of a letdown as far as orchestral execution is concerned, so I am not sure I would splurge and buy the whole set (though I have been eyeing his Mahler 3rd and Alpensinfonie).

The Scribendum set (I suppose you mean this?) is mostly old historic live performances from the 30s with corresponding sound quality. There is an almost complete Beethoven cycle with various orchestras, some Bruckner and assorted odds and ends, including a Lied von der Erde with the Concertgebouw. These are historically interesting and musically compelling performances, but Schuricht can be heard in most of this repertoire in far better sound on more recent recordings.

The Decca Original Masters set, by contrast, is all studio recordings from the 60s in great sound. It includes a fantastic Brahms 2 with the VPO, assorted Schumann, Schubert, Mendelssohn and Beethoven, as well as a phenomenal Brahms VC with Ferras. There is one duplication with what you have already, however, in that the Schubert Unfinished is the same as from the Great Conductors set.

You should also consider his excellent Beethoven cycle with the Conservatoire Orchestra.

In addition to the VPO Bruckner 8th which you aready have, Schuricht also recorded the 3rd and the 9th with the VPO. The former is available from amazon, but the 9th seems to be available only in Japan. I don't have the 3rd, but the 9th is outstanding.

I suspected as such. Schuricht never struck me as an orchestral trainer.

However, some of his best conducting that I know is with inferior orchestras, sadly.

[rw1883]

If you're interested in Schuricht's art, you might want to start with the less expensive Decca Original Masters set.

I haven't heard the entire Hänssler set. I think I only have the Bruckner 4th that is included there. While Schuricht had a long and fruitful relationship with the SWR Symphony Orchestra, I would have to say that orchestra just wasn't that spectacular in the 50s/60s. It is much better today, but in the 50s/60s it was quite scratchy. If you go from that fantastic VPO Bruckner 8th on the Great Conductors set to any of the SWR performances it will be a bit of a letdown as far as orchestral execution is concerned, so I am not sure I would splurge and buy the whole set (though I have been eyeing his Mahler 3rd and Alpensinfonie).

The Scribendum set (I suppose you mean this?) is mostly old historic live performances from the 30s with corresponding sound quality. There is an almost complete Beethoven cycle with various orchestras, some Bruckner and assorted odds and ends, including a Lied von der Erde with the Concertgebouw. These are historically interesting and musically compelling performances, but Schuricht can be heard in most of this repertoire in far better sound on more recent recordings.

The Decca Original Masters set, by contrast, is all studio recordings from the 60s in great sound. It includes a fantastic Brahms 2 with the VPO, assorted Schumann, Schubert, Mendelssohn and Beethoven, as well as a phenomenal Brahms VC with Ferras. There is one duplication with what you have already, however, in that the Schubert Unfinished is the same as from the Great Conductors set.

You should also consider his excellent Beethoven cycle with the Conservatoire Orchestra.

In addition to the VPO Bruckner 8th which you aready have, Schuricht also recorded the 3rd and the 9th with the VPO. The former is available from amazon, but the 9th seems to be available only in Japan. I don't have the 3rd, but the 9th is outstanding.

Thank you for the suggestions...the Decca set has been on my wishlist at Amazon for a while.  The Scribendum set I was referring to is this: 

http://www.chapitre.com/CHAPITRE/fr/MUSIQUE/product//carl-schuricht-direction,5060028041022.aspx

It probably duplicates some of the material on the one you mentioned and maybe even some from the Hanssler set (It was only about $60 at Berkshire).  For right now I'm going with the Decca set and venture from there...thanks again.

[Daverz]

In addition to the VPO Bruckner 8th which you aready have, Schuricht also recorded the 3rd and the 9th with the VPO. The former is available from amazon, but the 9th seems to be available only in Japan. I don't have the 3rd, but the 9th is outstanding.

I just got the 9th, which I've long enjoyed on Lp, from HMV Japan today, and they also have the 3rd, another great recording.

[MishaK]

http://www.chapitre.com/CHAPITRE/fr/MUSIQUE/product//carl-schuricht-direction,5060028041022.aspx

It probably duplicates some of the material on the one you mentioned and maybe even some from the Hanssler set (It was only about $60 at Berkshire).  For right now I'm going with the Decca set and venture from there...thanks again.

It looks like it duplicates some of the Decca stuff (Ruy Blas, Melusine, Hebrides, Oberon, Schumann Rhenish). Too bad they don't give ensembles or recording dates.

[Drasko]

It looks like it duplicates some of the Decca stuff (Ruy Blas, Melusine, Hebrides, Oberon, Schumann Rhenish). Too bad they don't give ensembles or recording dates.

Not even their own site gives ensembles and dates.

http://www.silveroakmusic.com/products.html

FWIW I think it's british label and masterings are done by Abbey Road Studios. I have Mravinsky '65 box and Svetlanov's Tchaikovsky and transfers are pretty good.

btw Bruckner 7 in Schuricht Scribendum box is 1964 Hague Philharmonic.