Chez Stravinsky

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snyprrr

Quote from: EigenUser on May 25, 2014, 07:28:09 AM
I've heard the "Ebony Concerto" -- I think that it might follow a path similar to SWI. I should hear it again. I should also hear "Dumbarton Oaks" considering I live less than 30 miles from Dumbarton Oaks :D.

I didn't like the "Concerto in D" (the concerto grosso) much at all. The VC, on the other hand, is a different story. That is one of my favorite concertos to play on violin, along with the Mendelssohn E minor.

I find Stravinsky more challenging to "figure out" because he seemed to like changing his style at every full moon.
I'll check it out sometime. Thanks!

Md. or Va.?


SWI is just a jolly little 8mins., nothing more. But apparently I'm missing something- isn't it supposed to be some kind of Dada Masterpiece? Or is that the 'Octet'? SWI sounds like marionette music to me.

EigenUser

Quote from: snyprrr on May 25, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
Md. or Va.?
Va. You?

I'm not sure if you're in the market for sheet music, but there is this huge sheet music store going out of business in Silver Spring, MD. Lots of scores available for cheap. I even saw an oversized Xenakis score ("Eonta", I think) crammed in with the miniature score section. They'll be closed for good on June 28th, I think.

The more I hear SWI, the more I think of Rite -- especially the introduction (to Rite) with all of the wind instruments.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

snyprrr

Quote from: EigenUser on May 25, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
Va. You?

I'm not sure if you're in the market for sheet music, but there is this huge sheet music store going out of business in Silver Spring, MD. Lots of scores available for cheap. I even saw an oversized Xenakis score ("Eonta", I think) crammed in with the miniature score section. They'll be closed for good on June 28th, I think.

The more I hear SWI, the more I think of Rite -- especially the introduction (to Rite) with all of the wind instruments.

Charm City

Who/Where in Silver Spring? I go to CD Depot and Atomic Music... the Depot has a large selection of Used Classical

EigenUser

Quote from: snyprrr on May 25, 2014, 11:07:59 AM
Charm City

Who/Where in Silver Spring? I go to CD Depot and Atomic Music... the Depot has a large selection of Used Classical
Dale Music. It's on Georgia Avenue just after the Rt.29/Colesville Road crossing (coming from the north/Beltway exit). Neat store. I'm not sure how many recordings they have, but they have a ton of sheet music. There's still an extra copy of SWI, btw :).

They also had the Stravinsky wind/PC.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

not edward

Quote from: snyprrr on May 25, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
SWI is just a jolly little 8mins., nothing more. But apparently I'm missing something- isn't it supposed to be some kind of Dada Masterpiece? Or is that the 'Octet'? SWI sounds like marionette music to me.
Jolly? The word that comes to mind for me is 'austere.'

On Firebird, it's well-done, for sure, but for me the Stravinsky that matters begins with Petrouchka.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 25, 2014, 07:30:20 AM
Another Firebird non-lover here. Overexposure to it (recordings, radio, live concerts) has made me immune to its, admittedly, attractive qualities. My local band (the Rheinland-Pfalz) has once again programmed it for the upcoming season...sigh. It comes up so often it's like conductors don't realize Stravinsky composed other works.

Sarge

Dreadfully unimaginative programming.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on May 25, 2014, 08:01:01 AM
It has always been his most popular work. It made him tons of money ...

Not the original ballet, nor the first couple of suites (which are most frequently programmed)...those were a Russian imprint which fell out of copyright in the West. He did up a new suite after settling in Hollywood;  Boosey may still own the rights to that.

In short, I'd be surprised if Stravinsky benefited from L'oiseau de feu to anything like the degree which its popularity ought to have earned him.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

EigenUser

Quote from: karlhenning on May 25, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
[...] Boosey may still own the rights to that. [...]
Ugh. Sigh. Not necessarily for Firebird, but for all of the other wonderful music they smother.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Brahmsian

I feel an intense desire to go on a Stravinsky binge.  I will, once I get home.  Karl and anyone else, feel free to join!  8)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


TheGSMoeller

Good idea, day off today, I'll spin this one (I do need to get more into Stravinsky)...

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Brahmsian

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on July 03, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Good idea, day off today, I'll spin this one (I do need to get more into Stravinsky)...

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Great start!  Orpheus and Jeu de Cartes are both in my personal 'Top 10 Stravinsky'.  :)

Karl Henning

I'm starting with Perséphone, just because it's a work I've not listened to often enough  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on July 03, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
I'm starting with Perséphone, just because it's a work I've not listened to often enough  8)

This is true for me also.  I remember the last time I listened to this work, it made a more favourable impression than it had in the past.

Karl Henning

Still crazy about the Symphony in Three Movements, after all these years . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on July 03, 2014, 09:37:45 AM
Still crazy about the Symphony in Three Movements, after all these years . . . .

It's a beaut!  :)

snyprrr


Brahmsian


Ken B

Quote from: ChamberNut on July 03, 2014, 08:31:04 AM
Great start!  Orpheus and Jeu de Cartes are both in my personal 'Top 10 Stravinsky'.  :)
Moi aussi. Especially Cartes.