Reasons I like Classic Rock better than modern.

[Saul]

I also like this Swedish Band Sabaton

http://www.youtube.com/v/IrJAwCBbnuc

[Josquin des Prez]

I tend to find most straight metal a bit repetitive after a while-- and not the kind of Repetitive I go for.

A bit repetitive in what sense? All pop music is repetitive, that's one of the reasons why it mostly sucks. I don't see how metal differs from the rest.

At any rate, more real metal to cleanse the filth posted by Saul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxLR2_wSsc

[Josquin des Prez]

The reason I like this new Israeli Rock band is because they are Israelis

Fixed.

[Saul]

Fixed.

Well that's also true... but there are hundreds of bands from Israel, I don't like all of them.
I also like American, French, British and Swedish bands...

[greg]

I somewhat enjoyed that Pantera clip JDP posted. I remember my friend once got a Dimebag Darrell Flying V not long after he died.

I've never liked classic rock or modern rock in general. If it has any chance of being played on the radio, I'd give it a 95% chance I won't like it. Almost all of the rock I like, regardless of time period, won't be played on an average radio station.

Well, since other people have kind of included metal in this thread... (i don't like radio-friendly metal, either)
http://www.youtube.com/v/j0N-JoDEUOc
http://www.youtube.com/v/HY1kZcA6VgI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/v/WxQEVcxzmQ8&feature=related

Meshuggah's "I" is my favorite piece of non-classical music. It is a single, 21 minute-long song, so it is split into 3 videos.
What I like about it:

Music- follow the patterns you see in the video. Oh, wait, what patterns? Exactly. Basically, they use the Stravinsky-an technique of mixed meter throughout most of this song. Listening to this is like listening to the Rite of Spring- powerful, terrifying, yet incredibly beautiful all at the same time.

Lyrics- they do not use bad language in any of their songs that I know of.
         -They do not talk about love, romance, or sex.
         -Their lyrics do not make you feel like you have to dumb yourself down to enjoy them (same with         their music).
         -It's as if a mad scientist wrote them!


The fact that this is modern makes me feel relieved that there is indeed still some good stuff being made out there.

[Sergeant Rock]

What I like about it:
         - they do not use bad language in any of their songs that I know of.
         -They do not talk about love, romance, or sex.
         -Their lyrics do not make you feel like you have to dumb yourself down to enjoy them.

What I dislike about it:

          -they do not use bad language in any of their songs that I know of.
         -They do not talk about love, romance, or sex.
         -Their lyrics do not make you feel like you have to dumb yourself down to enjoy them.

GABBA GABBA HEY 

Sarge

[greg]

What I dislike about it:

          -they do not use bad language in any of their songs that I know of.
         -They do not talk about love, romance, or sex.
         -Their lyrics do not make you feel like you have to dumb yourself down to enjoy them.

      GABBA GABBA HEY 

Sarge

lol

[Josquin des Prez]

Listening to this is like listening to the Rite of Spring- powerful

You are pitting the Rite of Spring next to some minimalistic, polymetric crap? Sacrilege! Here's how you properly do complex pop music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a3f5DCpfKE&feature=related

Real polyrhythms, some decent counterpoint and a catchy tune to boot.

[jowcol]

A bit repetitive in what sense? All pop music is repetitive, that's one of the reasons why it mostly sucks. I don't see how metal differs from the rest.

At any rate, more real metal to cleanse the filth posted by Saul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxLR2_wSsc

Does Pantera do anything that is not in 4/4 time?  That's one thing I look for.  I like different time signatures, and polyrhythmic or polymetric approaches.  Odd scales are a plus.  More of an emphasis on modal improv and melodic invention than power chords.  I also tend towards the bands that improvise more aggressively live.  (I don't know where Pantera fits into that).  I like to hear a band explore with different arrangements and solos. 

It may also be that my ears are not familiar enough with that era of metal to recognize differences or variety enough in that genre.  To me there is a general sameness from track to track that I don't get as strongly in some of the other rock genres-- but its all a matter of degree.  I remember that the bassist for Metallica after a while complained that he felt like he was playing a broadway show-- doing the same thing every night.  Once again, it may be my lack of depth-- I just hadn't felt the call to dig much deeper.

how would a band like Tool appeal to you?   Although they aren't ones to vary their performance live all that much, there is a lot of complex rhythmic stuff they do in addition to having a strong metal feel-- but they may not fit your definition.  Aenima is a very interesting and ambitious album, and Lateralus and 10,000 Days comes close. 

[jowcol]

You are pitting the Rite of Spring next to some minimalistic, polymetric crap? Sacrilege! Here's how you properly do complex pop music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a3f5DCpfKE&feature=related

Real polyrhythms, some decent counterpoint and a catchy tune to boot.

Not a bad Album.  Thela Hun Gunjeet, and particularly Indiscipline are also great tunes. .  On the whole, I thought this incarnation got a bit too clever- I like the Starless and Bible Black/Larks Tongues in Aspic period the best for KC.  But once I've gone that far, it's hard not to move into the Mahavishnu Orchestra -- although I guess the MO is technically Jazz Fusion.

[jowcol]

Synergia,

Israeli new Rock Band.. pretty cool

http://www.youtube.com/v/egwvdXvcOUc&feature=related

You may want to check out the Piamenta Heavenly Jams Band-- Yossi Piamenta has been hailed as the Jewish Jimi Hendrix (or John McLaughlin)-- a mixture of jazz, jam, and middle eastern stuff, with pretty solid musicians.

Here is a sample MP3:
http://www.archive.org/download/piamenta2005-09-22.shnf/piamenta2005-09-22d2t01_vbr.mp3

You can download whole shows (free!) at Archive.org  at  http://www.archive.org/details/PiamentaBand

[greg]

You are pitting the Rite of Spring next to some minimalistic, polymetric crap? Sacrilege! Here's how you properly do complex pop music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a3f5DCpfKE&feature=related

Real polyrhythms, some decent counterpoint and a catchy tune to boot.

I'm not sure how polymetric is a bad thing, nor how it is "minimalistic."

Although I'm not sure how King Crimson has anything to do with Meshuggah, I find Lark's Tongues in Aspic to be a better example of their capabilities. 

[jowcol]

Although I'm not sure how King Crimson has anything to do with Meshuggah, I find Lark's Tongues in Aspic to be a better example of their capabilities. 

The Live version of Lark's Tongues Pt II on the Live USA  album is fantastic!

[Saul]

You may want to check out the Piamenta Heavenly Jams Band-- Yossi Piamenta has been hailed as the Jewish Jimi Hendrix (or John McLaughlin)-- a mixture of jazz, jam, and middle eastern stuff, with pretty solid musicians.

Here is a sample MP3:
http://www.archive.org/download/piamenta2005-09-22.shnf/piamenta2005-09-22d2t01_vbr.mp3

You can download whole shows (free!) at Archive.org  at  http://www.archive.org/details/PiamentaBand

I have heard of him, I don't like his music...but thanks...

[DavidRoss]

http://www.youtube.com/v/j0N-JoDEUOc

Hey, Greg, I actually listened to this (most of it, anyway) and it sounds EXACTLY like the noise my car's tires make when I drive over an expansion bridge!

[greg]

Hey, Greg, I actually listened to this (most of it, anyway) and it sounds EXACTLY like the noise my car's tires make when I drive over an expansion bridge!

Maybe that's how they got their rhythms! 

[Josquin des Prez]

On the whole, I thought this incarnation got a bit too clever

Not clever enough for me. This is the point where i left pop music altogether and moved to better things.

I like the Starless and Bible Black/Larks Tongues in Aspic period the best for KC.

Good albums, but the dreadful singing ruined them for me. I can only listen to the instrumentals this days. Discipline still remains the most perfect album they ever made, probably one of the most perfect pop albums in history. Too bad they couldn't keep it up for the next two albums.

[jowcol]

Good albums, but the dreadful singing ruined them for me. I can only listen to the instrumentals this days.

It's the instrumentals that bring be back to those albums-- as well as Red, for that matter.  I've tended to skip the vocal numbers...

[Teresa]

Wow there is a lot of Rock music out there I don't like, I hated every single YouTube so far in this thread, especially the Metal ones.

Here is some music more my style:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Jcb-h8z1uQo

http://www.youtube.com/v/6fHO5cCfI04

http://www.youtube.com/v/YJe5sMBpnNY

http://www.youtube.com/v/OLFGnP_EPpQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/129uSUEN-8w

http://www.youtube.com/v/9WF4FF8QrQE

http://www.youtube.com/v/WPPlGFh6OpQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/XsWufNDJl4M

http://www.youtube.com/v/ze-p4e6rJaM

http://www.youtube.com/v/EEEzbFxEbB8

http://www.youtube.com/v/jyV41-tFPcQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/m20dIojYQjQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/GpGEeneO-t0

http://www.youtube.com/v/aZtZRmlqQSE

[karlhenning]

Not a bad Album.  Thela Hun Gunjeet, and particularly Indiscipline are also great tunes. .  On the whole, I thought this incarnation got a bit too clever . . .

While I gladly concede that neither Beat nor Three of a Perfect Pair is quite so strong an album as Discipline, I like them nearly as much.  "Neal and Jack and Me," "Sartori in Tangier," "The Howler," "Requiem," "Three of a Perfect Pair," "Sleepless" and "Industry" seem to me as strong as the material on Discipline.  And I tend to enjoy even the "ballads" . . . wherein one must at least allow that Belew is a vast improvement on Wetton . . . .

. . .
I like the Starless and Bible Black/Larks Tongues in Aspic period the best for KC.

Good albums, but the dreadful singing ruined them for me. I can only listen to the instrumentals this days.

Both the quality of Wetton's singing, and the content of the lyrics, can slouch awfully towards dire.  It was certainly an artistic liability in that period of the band, that they felt the pressure to have actual songs on the albums.  No matter what distinctions we might try to draw between "pop" and "rock," the genre as a whole has not earned the freedom that jazz possesses, where artists can record straight instrumental albums at will.  (Exceptions like Zappa and Jeff Beck — both of whom verge on jazz — seem only to prove the rule.)

That said, the instrumentals on those albums are extraordinary accomplishments by a pop/rock band . . . and if the occasionally twee songs are the dues we had to pay for the instrumentals . . . .