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Quote from: vandermolen on January 04, 2023, 10:32:05 PMYes, that's my favourite, conducted by Boult. Hickox is good too.
Quote from: Albion on January 05, 2023, 07:53:25 AMThe Hickox cycle on Chandos is excellent and if you get the original releases rather than the re-packaged box of symphonies you get some great couplings: A Tribute, Sinfonia Concertante, Ode to the Queen and The Morning Watch. An indispensable supplement is CHAN 9847 which has the marvellous choral works Song of the Soul, Inscape, Veni creator Spiritus and Natum Maria Virgine...
Quote from: Roasted Swan on January 06, 2023, 06:57:25 AMThankyou for the various nudges to revisit Rubbra 7th etc. The Lyrita discs are typically fine and impressive. As a slight tangent - a lot of the time Lyrita gets (rightly) praised for the repertoire it recorded but listening to this disc it struck me what important contributions these recordings were to their conductor's discographies too. Take Boult; Decca and EMI very much focussed on him recording core repertoire so lots of Elgar/Holst/RVW. All of which are wonderful but would leave a skewed impression of his range and strengths. If it weren't for Lyrita we'd have no Boult in Bax/Howells/Rubbra/Moeran/Stanford/Bridge/Finzi/Ireland/Holst (non-planets/perfect fool etc).The same is true of many other conductors (and composers as conductors too) - Lyrita was an important indeed historic record of their work.........
Quote from: Irons on January 06, 2023, 08:13:29 AMBeing pedantic. Boult did record Howells for a major and of course Perfect Fool for Decca but your premise is correct.It always surprises me how little RVW on Lyrita. Not recording the symphonies is understandable, although Itter did record both Elgar symphonies, but a wasted opportunity to have a supreme RVW conductor Boult on board and only record Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis.
Quote from: Roasted Swan on January 06, 2023, 01:51:10 PMThe rationale was surely that RVW did not "need" evangelising in the way the majority of the other chosen composers (at that time) on disc did. A reasonable point of view.
Quote from: Irons on January 06, 2023, 11:57:27 PMElgar even less so but Lyrita saw fit to record both symphonies.Being a devil's advocate as all said and done my world would be a poorer place without Lyrita.
QuoteThe Elgar symphony recordings on Lyrita pre-dated the EMI 're-makes' (though not by long). At the time of release they were hailed as important documents, the only real alternative being Barbirolli which, if I recall, spread the 2nd Symphony over 3 sides of LP, so not an attractive package for buyers.
Quote from: aukhawk on January 07, 2023, 01:54:07 AMThe Elgar symphony recordings on Lyrita pre-dated the EMI 're-makes' (though not by long). At the time of release they were hailed as important documents, the only real alternative being Barbirolli which, if I recall, spread the 2nd Symphony over 3 sides of LP, so not an attractive package for buyers.
Quote from: DaveF on January 23, 2023, 09:59:08 AMThis disc:gets an extraordinary hatchet-job of a review on Qobuz, a site supposedly devoted to selling recordings:https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/rubbra-violin-concerto-op-103-improvisations-op-89-edmund-rubbra/0747313259120I can't see any mention of it on this thread; is it really so bad, does anyone know?
QuoteEdmund Rubbra's 11 symphonies and large-scale choral works are his best-known efforts, but his occasional forays into the concerto genre are also worth noting, though one should explore them with diminished expectations. Violinist Krysia Osostowicz and the Ulster Orchestra, conducted by Takuo Yuasa, present the rather ambitious and cumbersome Concerto for violin and orchestra, Op. 103 (1959), with clarity and intensity, and on the strength of their playing, make it the only worthwhile offering on this 2005 Naxos disc. Osostowicz's penetrating tone and polished technique are admirable, and the orchestra supplies surprisingly fluid accompaniment, even though Rubbra's music is at times too plodding and ponderous. This lively performance saves the concerto, and makes it worth a serious hearing, even if it is an uncomfortably earnest and graceless piece. There is little reason, however, to get excited over the brooding and gloomy Improvisation for violin and orchestra, Op. 89 (1956), which just goes in circles for 12 exasperating minutes; and one may feel even less enthusiasm for the Improvisations on Virginal Pieces by Giles Farnaby, Op. 50 (1938-1939), which are neo-Renaissance fancies of little color or feeling, similar in style to Peter Warlock's Capriol Suite, but without the charm or imagination. Because this music is quite lackluster, Naxos' fine sound quality may seem less vibrant than it really is.
Quote from: DaveF on January 23, 2023, 12:57:33 PMThanks, both. Sadly, the Tasmin Little / Rivka Golani / Vernon Handley disc seems to be unavailable, as this would be an obvious choice. I would be interested to hear the Farnaby Improvisations, though - Rubbra was the patron of my school's music department (I'm not sure why, as we were a good 30 miles from Northampton) which meant that we in the school orchestra used to play this piece from time to time, almost certainly the only Rubbra work that would have been within our capabilities.For those of you without access to Qobuz, the review goes like this:
Quote from: Irons on January 24, 2023, 01:31:07 AMA damming review of the work not performance. Be interesting what he thought of the Delius VC, my guess, again not the reviewer's cup of tea. I like both concertos very much and for the Rubbra I find Carl Pini more then satisfactory.
Quote from: Roasted Swan on January 24, 2023, 01:46:12 AMI'd forgotten about that recording - Pini led the Philharmonia after Hugh Bean and before Christopher Warren-Green before he moved to Australia I seem to recall. Fine player.
Quote from: calyptorhynchus on January 25, 2023, 12:19:50 PMJust interested in different impressions, the Qobuz reviewer writes ' This lively performance saves the concerto, and makes it worth a serious hearing, even if it is an uncomfortably earnest and graceless piece.' I have always found this concerto, on the contrary, light-hearted and graceful, and one of Rubbra's best works.
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