Turina

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abidoful

I heard Turina's Piano Trio (op.67) today in a concert-first piece i've heard from him-- and i really didn't like it at all; no coherence! And he seemed to miss a distintive musical personality; reminiscences of Franck and Debussy--even of Grieg...! Any recommendations? What should i listen from him?

val

Listen to "Canto a Sevilla", a masterpiece for soprano and orchestra. It is perhaps Turina's best work. There are two splendid versions, old but remarkable: Victoria de Los Angeles/Fistoulari and Lola de Aragon/Freitas Branco.

I also suggest that you listen his piano music, by Alicia de Larrocha: two beautiful works, Danzas Fantasticas and Sanlucar de Barrameda.
The Sonata for guitar is another beautiful masterpiece.

The new erato

Anybody know his string quartet - Oracion de Torero or something like that? With my interest in this medium I've always wondered whether I have actually missed something there.

val

"Oration del Torero" is a work for string orchestra. It is a very beautiful piece. It seems that Turina wrote it, at first, for luth, but I never heard that version.

The version for string orchestra has some great interpretations:  Freitas Branco, Stokowski and Argenta, among others.

Todd

I've heard only some of his piano music, and then Turina seemed less distinctive than Albeniz, Granados, or Falla.  Still, it's not too bad at all.  Esteban Sanchez's recording brings out enough to listen to on occasion.
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Daverz

There's a beautifully done Telarc disc of the Danzas Fantasticas, Sinfonia Sevillana, and La Procesion del Rocio.

I guess I like the Piano Trio more than you do, and it is recognizably Turina.

abidoful

Thanks guys---ill give' em a try

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

#7
Glad to find the Turina thread. As for the recordings of his orchestral works, I have Almeida/RCA, Batiz/IMG(EMI), Lobos-Cobos/Telarc, Darman/Naxos, 2 of Mena/Chandos, and Udaeta/Claves. They all are wonderful, and there is no bad recording. I like the first three recordings especially. The Darman/Naxos is excellent too, but the recording sound is just fair. I like Turina piano works as well, and mainly listen the Naxos recordings by Maso.

Scion7

- grandfather to composer José Luis Turina [1952-  ]
- friend of Albéniz and de Falla
- born in Seville  died in Madrid
- studied in Paris under Vincent d'Indy
- influenced by French music - especially Debussy in younger years before  becoming a staunch Spanish nationalist in his music
- by 1930 was a professor of composition at Madrid Conservatory
- anti-communist, he was persecuted by the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War, but prospered under Franco's fascist regime and was awarded the Grand Cross of Alfonso X
- founded the General Music Commission of the Ministry of Education
- died of a long battle with cancer
- many of his works he re-arranged for other instrumentation, such as The Nine Muses, which exists in a version for lute quartet, a septet for string quartet plus piano and 2 violins, and an orchestral arrangement with piano titled Las musas de Andalucía

partial works list:

orchestral
La procesión del Rocio, sym. poem, op.9, 1913
Evangelio, poem, op.12, 1915
Navidad, Op.16
Danzas fantásticas: Exaltación, Ensueño, Orgía, op.22, 1920, arr. pf
Sinfonía sevillana, op.23, 1920
Oracion del Torero, Op.34
Ritmos, fantasia coreográfica, op.43, 1928
Danzas Gitanas, Op.55
Rapsodia sinfónica, op.66, pf, str, 1931
Primavera Sevillana
Preludio, from Fantasia Sobre Cinco Notas, Op.83
Serenta, arr. orchestra, Op.87
Tema y Variaciones, Op. 100

chamber
Pf Qnt, g, op.1, 1907
Str Qt 'de la guitarra', op.4, 1911
Sextet - Escena andaluza, op.7, va, pf, str qt, 1912
El poema de una sanluqueña, op.28, vn, pf, 1924
La oración del torero, op.34, lute qt, 1925, arr. str qt/str orch
Pf trio, op.35, 1926
Recuerdos de la antigua España, op.48, lute qt, 1929
Sonata, op.51, vn, pf, 1929
Pf Qt, op.67, 1931
Variaciones clásicas, op.72, vn, pf, 1932
Pf trio, op.76 (1933)
Sonata, No.2 op.82 Sonate  "Espagnole", vn, pf , 1908
Serenata, op.87, str qt
Círculo, op.91, pf trio, 1942
Las musas de Andalucía, op.93, pf qnt, 1942
Tema y variaciones, op.100, hp, pf, 1945
Homenaje a Navarra, op.102, vn, pf, 1945
Annonciation (L'): piano-string quintet
Trio in F (1904): piano-violin-cello
Divertimento, Aria y Serenata: 8 cellos

piano
Sevilla, suite pintoresca, op.2, 1909;
Sonata romántica, op.3, 1909;
Rincones sevillanos, op.5, 1911;
3 danzas andaluzas, op.8, 1912;
Recuerdos de mi rincón, op.14, tragedia cómica, 1915;
Album de viaje, op.15, 1916;
Mujeres españolas, op.17, 1917;
Cuentos de España, op.20, 1918;
Niñerias, op.21, 1918;
Sanlucar de Barrameda, sonata pintoresca, op.24, 1922;
El Cristo de la Calavera, leyenda, op.30, 1924;
Jardines de Andalucía, op.31, 1924;
La venta de los gatos, op.32, leyenda, 1925
El barrio de Santa Cruz, op.33, 1927;
Le leyenda de la Giralda, op.40, 1927;
2 danzas sobre temas populares españolas, op.41, 1927;
Verbena madrileña, op.42, 1927;
Mallorca, op.44, 1928;
Evocaciones, op.46, 1929;
Cuentos de España, series no.2, op.47 (1929);
Viaje marítimo, op.49, 1929;
Tocata y fuga, op.50, 1929;
Miniaturas, op.52, 1929;
5 danzas gitanas, op.55, 1930;
Niñerias, series no.2, op.56 (1930);
Partita, C, op.57, 1930;
Tarjetas postales, op.58, 1930;
Sonata fantasía, op.59, 1930;
Radio Madrid, op.62, 1931;
Jardín de niños, op.63, 1931;
Pieza romántica, op.64, 1931
El castillo de Almodóvar, op.65, 1931, orchd;
El circo, op.68, 1931;
Siluetas, op.70, 1932;
En la zapateria, op.71, 1932;
Mujeres españoles, series no.2, op.73 (1932);
Fantasía italiana, op.75, 1932;
El poema infinito, op.77, 1933;
Rincones de Sanlúcar, op.78, 1933;
Bailete, op.79, 1933; Preludios, op.80, 1933;
Fantasía sobre 5 notas, op.83, 1934, orchd;
Danzas gitanas, series no.2, op.84 (1934);
Concierto sin orquesta op.88, 1935;
Mujeres de Sevilla, op.89 (1935);
E el cortijo, op.92, 1940
Fantasia, del reloj, op.94, 1943;
Por las calles de Sevilla, op.96, 1943;
Rincón mágico, op.97, 1943;
Poema fantástico, op.98, 1944;
Contemplación, op.99, 1944;
Linterna mágica, op.101, 1945;
Fantasía cinematográfica, op.103, 1945;
Sinfonía del mar, unpubd
organ: Preludio, op.10, 1914;
organ: Musette, op.13, 1915

guitar
Sevillana, op.29, 1923;
Fandanguillo, op.36, 1926;
Ráfaga, op.53, 1930;
Sonata, op.61, 1931;
Homenaje a Tárrega, op.69, 1932

stage
La sulamita (op, 3, P. Balgañón, after the Bible), c1900
La copla (zar sevillana, 1, J. Labios and E. Luciux), c1904, Seville, Cervantes, 24 March 1904
Fea y con gracia (zar, 1, S. and J. Alvárez Quintero), 1905, Madrid, Moderna, 3 May 1905
Margot (comedia lírica, 3, G. Martínez Sierra), op.11, 1914 Madrid, Zarzuela, 10 Oct 1914
Navidad (incid music, 2 scenes, Martínez Sierra), op.16, 1916, Madrid, Eslava, 21 Dec 1916 (Madrid, 1916)
La adúltera penitente (incid music, A. Moreto), op.18, 1917, Barcelona, Novedades, 30 June 1917
Jardín de Oriente (op, 1, Martínez Sierra), op.25, 1922, Madrid, Real, 6 March 1923, prelude (Madrid, 1931)
La anunciación (incid music, T. Borras), op.27, 1923, Madrid, Español, 10 April 1924 (Madrid, 1924)
Pregón de flores (op, 1, S. and J. Alvárez Quintero), 1939–40

songs
Rima (G.A. Becquer), op.6, 1914; Poema en forma de canciones (R. de Campoamor), op.19, 1923; 3 arias (A.S. Rivas, J. Espronceda, Becquer), op.26, 1923; 2 canciones (C. de Arteaga), op.38, 1927; Tríptico (Campoamor, Rivas), op.45, 1929; 3 sonetos (R. Marin), op.54, 1930; Saeta en forma de Salve a la Virgen de la Esperanza (S. and J. Álvarez Quintero), op.60, 1930; Vocalizaciones, op.74, 1932; Homenaje a Lope de Vega, op.90, 1935
Canto a Sevilla (M. San Roman), op.37, 1v, orch, 1927;
Las nueve musas, 1v, pf, vn, str qt, 1942



(Bruckner's) is the career of a poor village boy ... The one and only really surprising thing about him was that after completing his career as an organist he suddenly began to compose music with a range of vision which in such a man would appear quite incongruous.

Scion7

1962 DG recording



this 1970 Lp not on CD?
(Bruckner's) is the career of a poor village boy ... The one and only really surprising thing about him was that after completing his career as an organist he suddenly began to compose music with a range of vision which in such a man would appear quite incongruous.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

#10
Quote from: Scion7 on December 13, 2020, 03:47:58 AM
1962 DG recording



this 1970 Lp not on CD?


Thank you very much for the pictures of LP and helpful info about Turina. I have never seen the records, and the cover arts look beautiful. As I admire Turina's compositions and movies by Luis Bunuel, I am thinking about visiting Seville after the pandemic.

Scion7

#11
I like his music very much -  I have the vast majority of it now - some things are not available - maybe one day that will be corrected.
I'd rather ensembles tackle missing compositions than the 4,000th version of Brahms' symphonies.
(Bruckner's) is the career of a poor village boy ... The one and only really surprising thing about him was that after completing his career as an organist he suddenly began to compose music with a range of vision which in such a man would appear quite incongruous.

Scion7

#12
The Claves discs have generally been of high quality.  An easy way to get a wide variety of the chamber pieces.

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Some of the piano music:
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(Bruckner's) is the career of a poor village boy ... The one and only really surprising thing about him was that after completing his career as an organist he suddenly began to compose music with a range of vision which in such a man would appear quite incongruous.