Czech Composers vs. Each Other

Started by Archaic Torso of Apollo, November 03, 2010, 03:56:09 AM

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Who is your favorite Czech composer?

Dvořák
16 (38.1%)
Janáček
18 (42.9%)
Martinů
5 (11.9%)
Smetana
1 (2.4%)
Zelenka
0 (0%)
Suk
0 (0%)
Reicha
1 (2.4%)
Other
1 (2.4%)

Total Members Voted: 36

karlhenning

Still, I was delighted that Dana opened his program with a Dvořák string trio.  Made even "the world's worst viola sonata" seem like a natural flow . . . .

DavidW

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Reicha is getting gouged because not enough people know his music. Where's Fibich? And Benda and Vanhal... :-\   I voted for Dvorak cause I like his looks; good, solid, conservative looking sort of person.... :)

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haha Dvorak looks like a pug! :D

Brahmsian

Quote from: DavidW on November 03, 2010, 10:56:06 AM
haha Dvorak looks like a pug! :D

Ha!   :D  Maybe I should have named my pug Dvorak!  ;D

mc ukrneal

Quote from: ChamberNut on November 03, 2010, 10:57:07 AM
Ha!   :D  Maybe I should have named my pug Dvorak!  ;D
Anyone who names their dog Dvorak gets my vote!
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Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Scarpia on November 03, 2010, 10:47:33 AM
But in all honesty, I haven't really explored much of Dvorak's Chamber music.  Perhaps my interest will revive if I do a little exploring in that direction.

You're in for a treat. Dvorak is a great chamber music composer - just like his pal Brahms.

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Reicha is getting gouged because not enough people know his music.

Like me, until last year. I didn't hear a note of the guy until 2009. Ignorance can be a formidable barrier to overcome.

QuoteWhere's Fibich? And Benda and Vanhal... :-\

And Cernohorsky, Vejvanovsky, Stamitz, Vorisek, Novak, Kabelac, Husa, Krommer, Foerster,...? They're all under "Other"!

QuoteI voted for Dvorak cause I like his looks; good, solid, conservative looking sort of person.... :)

My dear Gurn, you disappoint me...voting for a composer because of his looks?!?
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Reicha is getting gouged because not enough people know his music.

I heard some of his work. Wasn't impressed. Zelenka on the other hand is amazing.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 03, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
Zelenka on the other hand is amazing.

Zelenka is wonderful. Was listening to his Lamentations of Jeremiah recently. Such dark, affecting music. Not a surprise to discover that none other than JS Bach was a great admirer of Zelenka.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Brian

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Reicha is getting gouged because not enough people know his music. Where's Fibich? And Benda and Vanhal... :-\ 

Quote from: Velimir on November 03, 2010, 11:23:19 AM
And Cernohorsky, Vejvanovsky, Stamitz, Vorisek, Novak, Kabelac, Husa, Krommer, Foerster,...? They're all under "Other"!

You guys are killing me. No mention of Kalliwoda???

Another "other" composer for y'all's edification: Vycpalek. Ancerl recorded his "Cantata for the Last Things of Man," which is pretty good, and also, as you have noticed, has an AMAZING title.

Bulldog

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Reicha is getting gouged because not enough people know his music.
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He's not getting gouged.  He just doesn't have any votes, and that's not surprising given the other names on the list.  I've been a fan of Reicha's music for many years, but I couldn't vote for him ahead of Dvorak or Janacek.

springrite

My vote never counted. Janacek should be in the lead and Suk should have a solitary vote as well.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Bulldog on November 03, 2010, 01:23:07 PM
He's not getting gouged.  He just doesn't have any votes, and that's not surprising given the other names on the list.  I've been a fan of Reicha's music for many years, but I couldn't vote for him ahead of Dvorak or Janacek.

What can I say; I didn't either. I'm very keen on Bohemians (Rosetti is another fave), choosing one, even off a limited list, is too damned difficult. :(

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DavidW

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2010, 01:29:57 PM
choosing one, even off a limited list, is too damned difficult. :(

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That's funny: it was easy for me.  Dvorak! :D

Scarpia

Quote from: springrite on November 03, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
My vote never counted. Janacek should be in the lead and Suk should have a solitary vote as well.

Now we have to figure out if your vote was intercepted by the Great Firewall of China, or the U.S. Homeland Security Department.   :P

mc ukrneal

Quote from: springrite on November 03, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
My vote never counted. Janacek should be in the lead and Suk should have a solitary vote as well.
I think it did. After I voted, Janacek and Dvorak were tied at one apiece and we were the first to respond.
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Scarpia

Quote from: ukrneal on November 03, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
I think it did. After I voted, Janacek and Dvorak were tied at one apiece and we were the first to respond.

And how does that explain that Suk shows zero? 

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Scarpia on November 03, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
And how does that explain that Suk shows zero?
Who voted for Suk?  Springrite voted for Janacek.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Scarpia

Quote from: ukrneal on November 03, 2010, 02:17:53 PM
Who voted for Suk?  Springrite voted for Janacek.

I took Springrites post immediately above as indicating he voted for Suk.  But at this point I don't see what he means (i.e., only one vote is permitted).

not edward

For once, a poll I find easy to answer. Much as I love Martinu, and as I keep finding new things to admire in Dvorak, Janacek is one of the composers who speaks most directly to me.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Superhorn

  I love Czech music so much I can't possibly choose among Smetana,Dvorak or Janacek. I don't quite know the music of the other composers as well as these so I can't say. But I do enjoy what I've heard of their music very much,and I have heard a fair amount of it.  There's so much of Martinu's huge output I haven't heard yet
but would like to.
  I have Jarvi's excellent Chandos recordings of the three Fibich symphonies with the now troubled Detroit Symphony, and these are delightful, but no one else but Jarvi seems to have done them in the US except the tireless Neeme.Too bad.
   And if you can find the Supraphon recording of his opera Sarka(pronounced Sharka) ,grab it. It's a sleeper. This is the same subject as the Sarka in Smetana's Ma Vlast.
  I also have the mono Supraphon recording of choral work"The Storm" by Dvorak pupil Vitezslav Novak, which is a striking work that deserves to be better known,coupled with Dvorak's spooky oratorio "The Spectre's Bride". I recommend this 2 CD set highly.

Dancing Divertimentian

The heart says Martinu but I know Janacek must be it.

Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach