Only the New (music)

Started by Philoctetes, November 08, 2010, 07:28:18 PM

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Philoctetes

I'm hoping that many will add to this thread. A thread solely focused on new classical compositions. But what does new mean? I'd save give it a healthy range, from the 1970s forward. Although, I'd hope for more pieces within the last decade, but I know how difficult it can be to find recordings of music that new, but I'll start us all off with Liza Lim.

http://www.youtube.com/v/rb81dD7Mems

Mirror Image

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Who really cares what is happening in classical music right now? I sure don't. There is so much music just in first half of the 20th Century that will keep you busy for the rest of your life.

some guy

Thanks for that delightful piece, Philoctetes. That was fun.

Here's some more fun. Martin Tetreault and Otomo Yoshihide from 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0PeXeNllro

greg

Quote from: Philoctetes on November 08, 2010, 07:28:18 PM
I'm hoping that many will add to this thread. A thread solely focused on new classical compositions. But what does new mean? I'd save give it a healthy range, from the 1970s forward. Although, I'd hope for more pieces within the last decade, but I know how difficult it can be to find recordings of music that new, but I'll start us all off with Liza Lim.
That was one messed up bow.  :o


Here's some Xiagong Ye:
http://www.youtube.com/v/WRruCjwX_Zk


and a very good documentary of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icZGYNZohs&feature=related

karlhenning


Benji

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 08, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
Who really cares what is happening in classical music right now? I sure don't. There is so much music just in first half of the 20th Century that will keep you busy for the rest of your life.

Thought I don't doubt your final statement could well be true it makes me sad to read this. I thought you were better than that.

They say that those who forget the past are destined to repeat it, but when it comes to music I think those who fixate on the past are certain to repeat it, ad infinitum. If all mankind had that kind of attitude we'd still be living in cold dark caves! Innovation is the life-blood of music - and i'd imagine that someone so fond of the early 20th century music would be acutely and especially aware of that. Which begs the question: how can you not care? How can you not be fascinated, curious, or even just plain glad that innovation continues?

I'm just curious, as it seems of out of character.

karlhenning

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 08, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
Who really cares what is happening in classical music right now? I sure don't. There is so much music just in first half of the 20th Century that will keep you busy for the rest of your life.

You're making this composer cry, MI.

DavidW

Someone should tell Liza Lim that there is something wrong with her bow! :D

DavidW

I like what you posted Karl, very nice music.  Didn't care for the other stuff but Ivan Moody's piece is pretty darned good! :)

karlhenning


Philoctetes

Quote from: some guy on November 08, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
Thanks for that delightful piece, Philoctetes. That was fun.

Here's some more fun. Martin Tetreault and Otomo Yoshihide from 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0PeXeNllro

I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I'm trying hard to listen to more music from our time.

I really enjoyed what you posted as well. It's very inventive, and the sounds were lovely.

Philoctetes

Quote from: Greg on November 09, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
That was one messed up bow.  :o


Here's some Xiagong Ye:
http://www.youtube.com/v/WRruCjwX_Zk


and a very good documentary of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icZGYNZohs&feature=related

Thanks for the introduction. Although, I didn't find his music all that appealing (it seemed too traditional for me, too conventional), it was enjoyable. It just didn't sound "modern" enough, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Philoctetes

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 09, 2010, 04:56:00 AM
Ivan Moody's Passione popolare of 2005:

Part I


http://www.youtube.com/v/74Pdhe9YT9A

Part II

http://www.youtube.com/v/ldIHm4rPFLU&NR

I'm not usually a fan of choral music, but that was pretty awesome. I loved the voices played against the drone. It gave off a very mysterious air to it. Very tasty.


Philoctetes

Quote from: DavidW on November 09, 2010, 05:51:55 AM
I like what you posted Karl, very nice music.  Didn't care for the other stuff but Ivan Moody's piece is pretty darned good! :)

I say, as long as you are giving the music a fair shot, more power to you.  :)

snyprrr

Quote from: James on November 09, 2010, 07:13:41 AM
Neanderthals

That's not art music (no 'turntable' stuff i've heard is), and where is the composition? and where is the musicality? ... that's foolishness, unmusical & inane ...guys playing with there toys making a bunch of noise and stoping when it's time. I like the serious looks on their faces too, like their doing something sooo deep man. Right ...

Missed you! :-*

karlhenning

 
Quote from: Philoctetes on November 09, 2010, 07:43:43 AM
I say, as long as you are giving the music a fair shot, more power to you.  :)

No hurt to listen to something off your radar.

Scarpia

Quote from: Philoctetes on November 08, 2010, 07:28:18 PM
I'm hoping that many will add to this thread. A thread solely focused on new classical compositions. But what does new mean? I'd save give it a healthy range, from the 1970s forward. Although, I'd hope for more pieces within the last decade, but I know how difficult it can be to find recordings of music that new, but I'll start us all off with Liza Lim.

http://www.youtube.com/v/rb81dD7Mems

I'm certainly interested in modern music, but I'm just as certainly not interested in any music similar to what is depicted in this video.  To take an instrument like the cello that has been engineered over centuries to produce a rich tone when played a certain way, then make some absurd modification to the instrument or technique make it sound "different" strike me as idiotic.  To invent melodies, rhythms, and harmonies that have not been imagined before takes intelligence, and that is would I would like to find.

My difficulty is that the traditional methods of finding new music don't lead to much really modern music.  Production is motivated by demand, and there is no demand for music that people have never heard or heard of.  So demand for new art music builds up slowly.  I guess truly "commercial" music works differently, since music produces "manufacture" new artists to satisfy a demand which is itself manufactured through advertising and promotion.

Philoctetes

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Quote from: Scarpia on November 09, 2010, 07:46:46 AM
I'm certainly interested in modern music, but I'm just as certainly not interested in any music similar to what is depicted in this video.  To take an instrument like the cello that has been engineered over centuries to produce a rich tone when played a certain way, then make some absurd modification to the instrument or technique make it sound "different" strike me as idiotic.  To invent melodies, rhythms, and harmonies that have not been imagined before takes intelligence, and that is would I would like to find.

My difficulty is that the traditional methods of finding new music don't lead to much really modern music.  Production is motivated by demand, and there is no demand for music that people have never heard or heard of.  So demand for new art music builds up slowly.  I guess truly "commercial" music works differently, since music produces "manufacture" new artists to satisfy a demand which is itself manufactured through advertising and promotion.

Definitely fair criticisms, and I'm confident that not everyone will enjoy these new works (at least the  ones that I enjoy), but Henning posted a more "commerical" modern work, and that's the spirit I'm hoping this thread will foster.

Scarpia

I have this CD somewhere, I think, but it has never had it's turn in the CD player.



Is Turnage any good, or particularly "modern?"