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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #80 on: November 19, 2010, 07:04:20 AM »

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2010, 11:59:52 AM »
gerg, many of those bodies in the kind of paintings you mention did indeed cater to the salacious. Michaelangelo cannot be claimed to be exempt from that suggestion; have a look at his 'dying slave' sculpture.

Mike
So then, kignth, would that be considered art or Renaissance porn?  ???
And why so many guy statues... and why are their penises so small? That's not a very heroic quality. ???

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« Reply #82 on: November 19, 2010, 12:40:21 PM »
I am really not clear whether you want to get into this area of discussion or whether you are really just commenting.

But here goes:

The perfect male body and its proportions were evolved within Greek statuary. This probably had some connection with sex, but was more to do with the search for perfection.

The Romans coarsened the principles to an extent, that is to say the bodies are more likely to he heavier set.

Renaissance sculpture was heavily influenced by the Classical work, some of which was being unearthed after being buried for centuries and this in part caused the resurgence in this form of art.

The small penis is to do with proportion and what was felt to be classically aesthetic. The penis ought not to be the centre of attention, thus the modest proportion. There were specific kinds of religious statue in Greek art where it was certainly meant to be noticed.

The male tended to be used; as the muscleculture is considerably more demanding on the skills of the artist. They were also, as in painting, providing mythic or biblical references.

There was also the challenge to provide a statue out of a single piece of marble. The David was carved out of a piece that had been discarded as impossible to work. That is partly supposed to the the reason David's waist is so slim. It was carved out of the rock at an unusual angle to obtain the maximum use from the marble.

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greg

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #83 on: November 19, 2010, 01:29:35 PM »
I see... well, that clears up any confusion I had.

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2010, 01:52:59 PM »
Good....now, back to the new.

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« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2010, 02:00:41 PM »
Hahaha,...

that's the funniest exchange I ever read. :-* Oy,... best to just stay out of this one, snyprrr, but the "nothing to see here" was pretty precious. ;D

Move along, move along,...

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« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2010, 02:12:54 PM »
Not for the first time I marvel at your sense of humor.

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Philoctetes

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« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2010, 02:14:04 PM »
Good....now, back to the new.

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2010, 02:21:33 PM »
Liu Bolin





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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2010, 02:22:08 PM »
Philoctetes is the very embodiment of everything i hate about modern art and the modern world in general. I admire your consistency on this matter.

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2010, 02:22:38 PM »
Liu Bolin





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Thank you. That is just awesome. Superimposition is so good when done rightly.  :)

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« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2010, 02:23:52 PM »
I have seen one where he is standing against the Great Wall and becomes almost invisible.

Painstaking work.

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Philoctetes

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2010, 02:28:45 PM »
I have seen one where he is standing against the Great Wall and becomes almost invisible.

Painstaking work.

Mike

Not the great wall... but so rad.



Thanks once again.  8)

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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2010, 02:38:07 PM »
Great thread!

Philoctetes

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« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2010, 02:38:58 PM »
Great thread!

Thanks. I know, that I, for one, am enjoying it immensely.


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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2010, 10:16:56 PM »
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Re: Only the New (art)
« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2010, 07:19:48 PM »