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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12580 on: December 26, 2021, 06:47:17 PM »
Independently of whether I agree or not with Hurwitz regarding what he thinks and put on his videos, I do admit that his Haydn symphony traversal is becoming an important achievement on Youtube. I enjoy much of his content, albeit I disagree with many of his assessments.
I keep meaning to watch one or two of those, but the fact that there will eventually be 108 of them is intimidating  ;D ;D

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« Reply #12581 on: December 26, 2021, 07:51:10 PM »
Independently of whether I agree or not with Hurwitz regarding what he thinks and put on his videos, I do admit that his Haydn symphony traversal is becoming an important achievement on Youtube. I enjoy much of his content, albeit I disagree with many of his assessments.

I agree; though the Naxos recordings that Hurwitz uses for samples don't seem to be showing these works in the most flattering light....
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« Reply #12582 on: December 26, 2021, 08:49:58 PM »
I keep meaning to watch one or two of those, but the fact that there will eventually be 108 of them is intimidating  ;D ;D

Certainly, and I hope he'll make all of them.

The Scarlatti's sonatas journey doesn't seem as succesful at the Haydn, though
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« Reply #12583 on: December 26, 2021, 08:52:04 PM »
I agree; though the Naxos recordings that Hurwitz uses for samples don't seem to be showing these works in the most flattering light....

I'm not sure if he can play excerpts from other labels regarding his symphonies. Maybe it has to do with it.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12584 on: December 27, 2021, 09:10:41 AM »
I keep meaning to watch one or two of those, but the fact that there will eventually be 108 of them is intimidating  ;D ;D

I watch Bartoli's Scarlatti vids as he rolled them out, FWIW. (I mean, though, that I enjoyed his presentations very much.)
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« Reply #12585 on: December 27, 2021, 04:28:17 PM »
I agree; though the Naxos recordings that Hurwitz uses for samples don't seem to be showing these works in the most flattering light....

I dunno, I collected the Naxos disks as they came out, although they are from different ensembles and are variable, I found most of them lively and engaging. (For comparison I have the PI box and about 20 or so odd symphony disks from different orchestras (inc a few Dorati ones)).

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« Reply #12586 on: December 27, 2021, 05:21:34 PM »
I agree; though the Naxos recordings that Hurwitz uses for samples don't seem to be showing these works in the most flattering light....

Why do you say that?  I think at least the recordings with Cologne Chamber Orchestra and Helmut Müller–Brühl are very good.  There's a listing of the orchestras used here:

https://www.naxos.com/SharedFiles/pdf/8.503400_numerical-index.pdf#

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« Reply #12587 on: December 28, 2021, 12:16:49 AM »
I had 3-5 of the Naxos Haydn symphonies and they were overall good, not great. The Müller-Brühl might have the best sound and playing (they are also among the more recent of their recordings) but sometimes mannered (I really disliked his #80). Drahos with some hungarian ensemble? was also good but the sound a bit boomy and resonant.
Hurwitz seems to have a deal with some labels letting him play excerpts and for Haydn Naxos might have been the only option.
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« Reply #12588 on: December 28, 2021, 05:10:47 AM »
I keep meaning to watch one or two of those, but the fact that there will eventually be 108 of them is intimidating  ;D ;D
:laugh: ;)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12589 on: December 28, 2021, 06:59:06 AM »
:laugh: ;)

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I can "watch" 108 vids of Haydn symphonies. But 108 vids of Hurwitz jawing about Haydn symphonies? Include me out, as the saying goes.
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« Reply #12590 on: December 30, 2021, 08:45:23 AM »
I can "watch" 108 vids of Haydn symphonies. But 108 vids of Hurwitz jawing about Haydn symphonies? Include me out, as the saying goes.
Here, here!  ;D

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« Reply #12591 on: January 04, 2022, 07:04:50 AM »
Is it too late to fly to Switzerland? Probably not.
Is it too expensive to fly to Switzerland? Probably yes.  ;D
BUT there will be a live broadcast on YouTube

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Sinfonie Nr. 90 in C-Dur
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Concerts 23-26 January, recording session to follow (Vol. 16, CD release in 2024!)

The YouTube streaming concert will be the January 26 concert in Basel, with an introductory talk from the conductor and a Haydn scholar. Talk at 6:15 Switzerland time, concert at 7:30 there.

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12592 on: January 08, 2022, 04:19:13 PM »



Previously I was listening to the Cello Concerto No. 2 in D major. I thought it was like too much "polite" and polished of a performance for me.

Are there any recordings of his cello concertos with more robustness, vigour and audacity?
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12593 on: January 09, 2022, 03:33:45 AM »
I generally only listen toi the C major concerto but of recordings that couple the two, Truls Mørk or Alisa Weilerstein might suit better, or at the HIPper end of the spectrum, Christophe Coin or Pieter Wispelwey.  If I could only have one, I'd probably go with Coin. The Weilerstein pairing is coupled with a good rendition of Verklarte Nacht - of all things!
In the C major, I have a particular fondness for Ludovit Kanta for his absolutely audacious 'out there' cadenzas.


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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12594 on: January 09, 2022, 07:49:49 AM »
I second Kanta in Haydn too, for example. The early Rostropovich/Barshai concertos (1963; live; at least on Brilliant) are surely among the liveliest recordings in existence, with interesting phrasings too, but you might find the sound quality too old, and they can be a bit rough as well.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12595 on: January 09, 2022, 04:53:01 PM »
Thanks for the replies, gents! I'll continue exploring then
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12596 on: January 15, 2022, 02:37:06 AM »

Previously I was listening to the Cello Concerto No. 2 in D major. I thought it was like too much "polite" and polished of a performance for me.

Are there any recordings of his cello concertos with more robustness, vigour and audacity?

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