Your Top Five Four-Movement Works You Really Only Like Three Movements Of

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BachQ

What if I really love two movements but only somewhat like the other two movements?  Does that count?

karlhenning

Quote from: D Minor on June 21, 2007, 04:45:46 AM
What if I really love two movements but only somewhat like the other two movements?  Does that count?

Nope. Gotta take that to another thread . . . .

QuoteHeadmaster: All right, settle down, settle down. [He puts his
     papers down.] Now before I begin the lesson will those of you
     who are playing in the match this afternoon move your clothes
     down on to the lower peg immediately after lunch before you
     write your letter home, if you're not getting your hair cut,
     unless you've got a younger brother who is going out this
     weekend as the guest of another boy, in which case collect his
     note before lunch, put it in your letter after you've had your
     hair cut, and make sure he moves your clothes down onto the
     lower peg for you. Now...

Wymer: Sir?

Headmaster: Yes, Wymer?

Wymer: My younger brother's going out with Dibble this weekend,
     sir, but I'm not having my hair cut today sir, so do I move my
     clothes down or...

Headmaster: I do wish you'd listen, Wymer, it's perfectly simple.
     If you're not getting your hair cut, you don't have to move
     your brother's clothes down to the lower peg, you simply
     collect his note before lunch after you've done your scripture
     prep when you've written your letter home before rest, move
     your own clothes on to the lower peg, greet the visitors, and
     report to Mr Viney that you've had your chit signed. Now,
     sex... sex, sex, sex, where were we?

not edward

As it happens, there is actually a work which--for me--fits this description very well: Ives' Fourth Symphony. I'm sure you can figure out which movement I don't like (even though I understand that its earthbound nature is a necessity within the composer's spiritual plan for the work).
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music


PSmith08

As it happens, you're in luck. I only really like three movements of the following four movement works in consecutive contiguous months that begin either with consecutive contiguous letters or, as is occasionally the case, the same letter, unless it happens to be a day of the week that begins with the same letter as either contiguous day, consecutive or not. Since it is Thursday in June, it is safe to say that I only really like three movements of the following five four-movement works:

1. Shostakovich's 10th (third movement doesn't quite do it for me)
2. Beethoven's 5th (the fourth movement seems like overkill, but brilliant overkill)
3. Dvořák's 8th (third movement isn't my thing)
4. Schubert D. 898 (second movement is better in D. 929, that's enough for me)
5. Haydn op. 76 no. 3 (second movement, for a variety of reasons)

Spot the joke in the above selections and win my congratulations for the day!

val

BRUCKNER: 7th Symphony: never liked much the 4th movement

DVORAK: 6th Symphony, the same regarding the 4th movement

BEETHOVEN: 3rd Symphony, don't like the Scherzo

MOZART: Quintet K 516: the 4th movement is not at the level of the first three

BEETHOVEN: 9th Symphony, the same regarding the 4th movement

Symphonien

The only one I can think of right now is Beethoven's 9th, 4th movement but I'm sure there are others...

karlhenning

Quote from: Symphonien on June 22, 2007, 12:58:19 AM
The only one I can think of right now is Beethoven's 9th, 4th movement but I'm sure there are others...

Now, you see, I was expecting Harry to offer this one up.

No doubt he is preoccupied, though, listening to Boieldieu, Tortoni, Telemann & Benda  8)

karlhenning


BachQ

Take your pick of any five of these: Haydn symphonies 1-104 (never much cared for any of H's 3d mvts) ......


Christo

Quote from: karlhenning on June 22, 2007, 03:57:17 AM
Now, you see, I was expecting Harry to offer this one up.

Still, no Harry to be seen, here. Let's do his duty and sum up some of his possible choices:

Beethoven 9
Bliss, Colour Symphony (fourth movement shares it's structural problems with so many symphony's final movement, like e.g.:)
Walton 1
Brian Gothic (the one-hour lasting setting of the Te Deum actually takes another three movements, after the first three purely orchestral ones)
Nielsen 6
Tchaikovsky 5 (as many seem to dislike the Valse of the third movement)

... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Grazioso

As much as I love Bruckner, the finales of most of his symphonies are a) let-downs after what has come before and b) just too much after already listening for 45-60 minutes.
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Don

Quote from: Grazioso on June 28, 2007, 03:22:26 AM
As much as I love Bruckner, the finales of most of his symphonies are a) let-downs after what has come before and b) just too much after already listening for 45-60 minutes.

Perhaps you could start your listening experiences with the final movements; that would negate (b).

EmpNapoleon


karlhenning

Quote from: EmpNapoleon on June 28, 2007, 06:25:58 AM
I hate the Allegro giocoso in Brahm's 4th Symphony.

I couldn't quite use so strong a verb . . . but . . . .

Hector

Most of Bruckner's so-called Scherzos.

By golly could this composer write clodhopping dance music?

Many a time in the days of LP I would lift the arm on to the next movement or, as was often the case, not play that side.

The exceptions that come to mind are the 4th and 6th symphonies.


Harry

Quote from: Christo on June 28, 2007, 02:41:59 AM
Still, no Harry to be seen, here. Let's do his duty and sum up some of his possible choices:

Beethoven 9



You answered that correctly ;D

karlhenning

Quote from: Harry on June 28, 2007, 06:44:45 AM
You answered that correctly ;D

At last!

And with that, Gentle Reader, this thread has achieved Closure.