Classic-Early Romantic Composers - A Cornucopia!

[Josquin des Prez]

After consulting a list on the ever useful Wikipedia, I noticed two others who tend to be mentioned in the same breath as Vanhal and Krommer: Kraus and Pleyel. I assume that these two are "big" enough to warrant investigation?

I don't know about Pleyel, but Kraus is pretty good too, better then Vanhal i think. Concerto Köln has two recordings of his symphonies out, can't go wrong with that.

I don't think I've even heard of the second two composers before

I've seen some talk of Arriaga here but nobody ever mentions Burgmüller. It's a shame since i feel he's the best of the lot as far as late classical, early romantic minor composers go. He's like a lesser version of Schubert, and in fact it was Schumann who said that no other early death besides that of Schubert himself was as tragic as that of Burgmüller. He could have been one of the greats had he lived longer.

[Maciek]

I agree that Kraus is pretty good. Don't know about the others, haven't heard them.

[71 dB]

Kraus is one of those composers I have planned to check out but there is so much everything... ...I doubt he could be better than Vanhal, equal perhaps... ...but what can I know.

I've seen some talk of Arriaga here but nobody ever mentions Burgmüller. r. .

I had never heard of Burgmüller. Is there even recordings of his music around?

EDIT: there is in fact. Unfortunately not on budget labels like Naxos (who the hell pays full price for these minor composers?".

Wiki: Norbert Burgmüller (Düsseldorf, February 8, 1810 – Aachen, May 7, 1836) Damn, he died young! 

[SonicMan46]

After consulting a list on the ever useful Wikipedia, I noticed two others who tend to be mentioned in the same breath as Vanhal and Krommer: Kraus and Pleyel. I assume that these two are "big" enough to warrant investigation?.................

Sara - all of the composers above are worth hearing, and purchasing if you enjoy the music! 

Joseph Kraus, although born in Germany was known as the Swedish Mozart because he spent his short adult life in Sweden - his dates pretty much match those of Mozart, i.e. 1756-1792; I own about a half dozen discs of his music including 3 CDs of Symphonies on Naxos w/ Sundkvist & the Swedish CO.

Franz Krommer - I was amazed in checking my database that I have nearly a dozen discs by this composer but all wind music (chamber & concertos), and it is good - he did write symphonies, but I'm not familiar w/ these compositions (at least not yet!).

Ignaz Pleyel - both a composer & musical publisher (known more the latter probably later in his life) - do have 2 CDs of his symphonies, one on Naxos & the other on Chandos w/ Bamert; both quite good - his chamber works are excellent, too.

Johann Vanhal - as w/ Pleyel, a couple of symphonic discs (actually same labels) - these are quite good & have been well lauded on this forum.

Good luck in your listening & selections -    Dave

[Lethevich]

Danke And glad to see this thread semi-alive again

[sTisTi]

Franz Krommer - I was amazed in checking my database that I have nearly a dozen discs by this composer but all wind music (chamber & concertos), and it is good - he did write symphonies, but I'm not familiar w/ these compositions (at least not yet!).

His experience with composing for wind instruments also shows in his symphonies - he really puts the clarinets, oboes etc. to good use
But seriously, his symphonies are really astonishingly good - I listened to them quite often after I bought the Bamert/London Mozart Players disc and have been amazed by their quality and inventiveness time and time again. It's really baffling how these works have managed to remain virtually unknown.

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[SonicMan46]

bump this thread

Snyprrr - thanks for the bump!  Plenty of great information from those 'old' links - hope others will enjoy - Dave 

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[Bulldog]

Snyprrr - thanks for the bump!  Plenty of great information from those 'old' links - hope others will enjoy - Dave 

How did you get a photo of my wife's chest?

[SonicMan46]

How did you get a photo of my wife's chest?

Don - now I'm jealous!    Did not know that you were married to Dolly Parton! 

[Bulldog]

Don - now I'm jealous!    Did not know that you were married to Dolly Parton! 

The basic differences between my wife and Dolly Parton are that Dolly has more money and a plastic face.

[The new erato]

One shouls add Eberle, one of whose symphonies were performed in a double with Beethovens eroica on its premiere, and whose works (the couple of them I've heard) have impressed me, as well as Willms, the recently reissued Archiv disc (reissued on Brilliant) is quite impressive.

[Spizfromoz]

My first post, in appreciation of this thread in particular. Just listened online to Pleyel clarinet concertos. Terrific, thanks for your efforts.

[PerfectWagnerite]

I just heard Kuhlau's Elisa Overture on the radio. An interesting piece that sounds like a mixture of Weber (the horns reminiscent of Der Freischutz and Oberon), Suppe (trumpet calls reminisent of Light Cavalry), and Mendelssohn (crispness of orchestration).

[Sergeant Rock]

I just heard Kuhlau's Elisa Overture on the radio. An interesting piece that sounds like a mixture of Weber (the horns reminiscent of Der Freischutz and Oberon), Suppe (trumpet calls reminisent of Light Cavalry), and Mendelssohn (crispness of orchestration).

It's on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/v/Mc_C3UolcKQ

Sarge

[PerfectWagnerite]

It's on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/v/Mc_C3UolcKQ

Sarge

Thanks.

ALmost everything you want is on youtube and.or spotify now it seems.

[arpeggio]

Speaking of Kuhlua have any seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrcY3ELN2pk

[mszczuj]

Speaking of Kuhlua have any seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrcY3ELN2pk

Yes, but original Danish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPOnUJeT8tI