The Matt Damon Political Bigotry Thread

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snyprrr

Quote from: Brian on December 30, 2010, 12:45:11 AM
Oxford English Dictionary
bigot

†1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete.
2 a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc.
2 b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs.

I'll be honest, I did not expect that to be the definition  ??? ??? ???


Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
All i care about is the preservation of western civilization. Right now the current iteration of liberalism is the number one enemy to the culture and values i cherish above everything, so being called a bigot by the likes of those who subscribe to this suicidal political philosophy is a badge of honor for me.

history is written by the winners?

one man's bigotry is another's badge of honor?

oh yea,... 'the science is settled'...



soon, perhaps, the difference of opinion on certain topics will load to a,...um,... clash of civilizations?



have you seen the younger generation? it seems their main characteristic is a deathly fear of being perceived as a 'racist' or 'homophobe' or 'antisemetic', or just 'bigot'. well, if they are the alternative,... allow this opportunity to say:

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There, that should do it. Hypocritize on!

So, I'm not a bigot,... but, 'you,' the Great Unwashed, are.

nanny nanny boo boo


Todd

Quote from: snyprrr on December 30, 2010, 09:36:19 AM

history is written by the winners?

one man's bigotry is another's badge of honor?

oh yea,... 'the science is settled'...



soon, perhaps, the difference of opinion on certain topics will load to a,...um,... clash of civilizations?



have you seen the younger generation? it seems their main characteristic is a deathly fear of being perceived as a 'racist' or 'homophobe' or 'antisemetic', or just 'bigot'. well, if they are the alternative,... allow this opportunity to say:

*****

****

******

***

****

*****

There, that should do it. Hypocritize on!

So, I'm not a bigot,... but, 'you,' the Great Unwashed, are.

nanny nanny boo boo



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The new erato

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
All i care about is the preservation of western civilization.
And Palin is what you can come up with? God help us all.

Bulldog

For the record, I consider Damon an excellent actor and JdP a poor judge of acting talent. ;D

Brahmsian

Quote from: Bulldog on December 29, 2010, 01:42:34 PM
The only thing about Matt Damon that interests me is his acting skill.

Ditto.  That goes for any actor or actress.  I could care less what their political or religious views are.  That goes for anyone in the so-called 'spotlight'.  Who cares???  Why should their opinions hold any more importance or weight than my own or my grandmother's?

Brian

Quote from: Todd on December 30, 2010, 09:38:11 AM


You should be more careful which mushrooms you eat.

A first-class riposte, sir.

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: erato on December 30, 2010, 09:40:37 AM
And Palin is what you can come up with? God help us all.

I despise her ilk just as much as i despise the liberals. If i had to classify myself politically i might fit under a paleoconservative spectrum with a neo-Spenglerian cultural outlook. For me the neoconservatives are just as bad as modern liberals. 

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Bulldog on December 30, 2010, 10:00:57 AM
I consider Damon an excellent actor

Haha, that's pretty funny. Nice trolling, i almost felt for it. I mean, you are trolling, right?

The new erato

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 10:45:47 AM
I despise her ilk just as much as i despise the liberals. If i had to classify myself politically i might fit under a paleoconservative spectrum with a neo-Spenglerian cultural outlook. For me the neoconservatives are just as bad as modern liberals.
Die Untergang des Abendlandes; yes, time someone brought that out.

karlhenning

Curiously, I find that I really haven't seen Damon in anything.  I didn't see much of either Mystic Pizza or Good Will Hunting . . . though I suppose I really ought to watch the latter.  For the rest of his filmography, I haven't seen any at all.  I suppose I ought also to watch The Departed at some point . . . .

Brian

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 10:45:47 AM
I despise her ilk just as much as i despise the liberals. If i had to classify myself politically i might fit under a paleoconservative spectrum with a neo-Spenglerian cultural outlook.

Egon Spengler?


Florestan

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Bulldog

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 10:47:35 AM
Haha, that's pretty funny. Nice trolling, i almost felt for it. I mean, you are trolling, right?

No.  Damon also does a good job of picking his roles.  By the way, who are your favored actors?

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Bulldog on December 30, 2010, 11:09:04 AM
No.  Damon also does a good job of picking his roles.  By the way, who are your favored actors?

I..., don't know. I haven't seen that many films that i actually liked to be able to pass that judgment. Fellini and Tarkovsky are my two favored directors, if that means anything.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
All i care about is the preservation of western civilization.

Then indeed you have a lot on your plate. I, for one, wish you would care about capitalizing the first person singular pronoun.  :)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Philoctetes

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on December 30, 2010, 12:48:02 PM
I..., don't know. I haven't seen that many films that i actually liked to be able to pass that judgment. Fellini and Tarkovsky are my two favored directors, if that means anything.

Well Fellini is a fantastic director.

Damon though is a fairly good actor, not the best, but as Bulldog said, he selects his roles very well. I enjoy watching him on the screen, plus he's a nice dude.


Philoctetes

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2010, 10:50:36 AM
Curiously, I find that I really haven't seen Damon in anything.  I didn't see much of either Mystic Pizza or Good Will Hunting . . . though I suppose I really ought to watch the latter.  For the rest of his filmography, I haven't seen any at all.  I suppose I ought also to watch The Departed at some point . . . .

The Departed is a pretty good flick. For me though, Damon as Bourne was very enjoyable, and it's how I'll remember him. Oh.. and in Dogma.  :P

DavidRoss

Quote from: Sforzando on December 29, 2010, 07:03:52 PM
And you left out the remainder of Wikipedia's definition: "The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, various mental disorders, or religion." None of that applies to Matt Damon's assessment of Sarah Palin.
Huh?  That's not definition but a description of predominant usage.  And it's dated, for over the past decade nothing has so poisoned our national life as the hateful bigotry that pervades our political discourse.  And re. Damon's assessment of Palin, it fits the definition perfectly: "A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."

If you or others cannot see something so clear as the bigotry Damon displayed, then either you still don't understand what the term "bigot" means or something other than reason is governing your perceptions.  That's tragically common these days.  It's a daily occurrence to encounter folks who have no trouble seeing evidence of bigotry in the antics of, say, Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, but who can't recognize it in Keith Obermann or Rachel Maddow, though it's just as apparent and equally destructive.

Quote from: Sforzando on December 30, 2010, 02:18:46 AM
Please yourself. You're missing the point, which was that Ross was relying on the Wikipedia definition (not one from a standard dictionary), while leaving out the portion of it that failed to suit his needs.
It's hard to read this as anything other than a malicious attempt to impugn my integrity.  I'm embarrassed for you.  The wikipedia definition popped up first when I googled the term "bigotry" and it was adequate and consistent with the many dictionary definitions I've cited time and again on this site to explain the meaning of a term which many here seem to misunderstand.

Websters on-line: "A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance."

The American Heritage Dictionary: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

Harper Collins Dictionary: "A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race."

Webster's Revised Unabridged (1913):  "1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]  2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a   person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion."

worldnetweb.princeton: "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own."

Wiktionary: "bigoted--Being a bigot; biased; strongly prejudiced; forming opinions without just cause."







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