Tudor Era Music (1485-1603)

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Bogey

My God children and their parents just left after spending part of the holiday season with us.  As some of you know, I purchase a classical music disc for them each month and send it their way.  I will sometimes have a theme to the purchases for a few months in a row and I would like to net them some music the was written between the years of 1485-1603.  The mother and father love the Tudors show and I thought it would be fun to send them some music from that time period.  So, what are your recs for specific discs?  Thanks!
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Opus106

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I love the music from this particular region and period, especially what is called Consort Music. Among the handful of discs I have, most are music for the viols, although one disc from Alia Vox contains the greatest variety and colour.

The disc opens with the Pavane and Gallyard of Innocentio Alberti.

http://www.youtube.com/v/TQ_FAwg9aT8
Regards,
Navneeth

Bogey

Exactly what I am looking for!  Thanks!
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

Que

Bill, music from the English (Middle & High) Renaissance consisted indeed of Consort Music (music for viols), on which there is a thread HERE.

But there is more - here is a list of significant composers that I got from this website that will undoubtedly interest you: http://www.the-tudors.org.uk/tudor-music.htm

Suggestions for recordings (general Renaissance) HERE.

*John Bennet (1575-1614)
*John Bull (1562-1628)
William Blitheman (1525 - 1591)
*William Byrd (1543-1623)
*Thomas Campion (1567-1620)
*Richard Carlton (c1558-1638)
*Michael Cavendish (c1565-1628)
*John Dowland (1563-1626)
*John Farmer (c.1570-1601)
*Giles Farnaby (c1560-c1620)
*Orlando Gibbons (1583-1625)
Robert Johnson (c.1500-1560)
*George Kirbye (c1565-1634)
*Thomas Morley (1557-1602)
*John Mundy (1550-1630)
*Francis Pilkington (c1570-1638)
Thomas Ravenscroft (1590-1633)
John Redford (1485-1543)
Philip Rosseter (c.1575-1623)
John Shepherd (c. 1515-1558)
Thomas Tallis (c.1505-1585)
John Taverner (c.1495-1545)
*Thomas Tomkins (1572-1656)
Christopher Tye (c.1500-1573)
*John Ward (1571-1638)
*Thomas Weelkes (1576-1623)
*John Wilbye (1574-1638)

*= English Madrigal School

Q

Archaic Torso of Apollo

This was the era when English music was foremost in Europe, so there are a lot of good choices.

If you want un-HIP, Glenn Gould's "Consort of Musicke" disc, featuring works by Byrd and Gibbons, is a classic.

Otherwise, there are plenty of discs from composers of this era (Byrd, Dowland, Gibbons, Shepard, Bull, Tallis...) I'd say, follow Que's links and you should be happy  :)
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SonicMan46

Q - excellent post & links!   :D

Bill - I own a lot of discs of this music, especially the ones in bold in Que's list - however, there is a lot of variable compositions, i.e. secular vs. sacred & vocal vs. instrumental - so let us know if you want to concentrate in one or more areas?  Of course, there are compilations combining different composers from some excellent groups specializing in this music!   Dave  :)

Bogey

Quote from: SonicMan on January 02, 2011, 02:24:46 PM
Q - excellent post & links!   :D

Bill - I own a lot of discs of this music, especially the ones in bold in Que's list - however, there is a lot of variable compositions, i.e. secular vs. sacred & vocal vs. instrumental - so let us know if you want to concentrate in one or more areas?  Of course, there are compilations combining different composers from some excellent groups specializing in this music!   Dave  :)

I have noticed the combining, Dave.  A smattering of all genres from this period is welcome.  My main concern is tracking down "favored" performances. :)
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Bogey on January 02, 2011, 09:38:09 AM
My God children and their parents just left after spending part of the holiday season with us.  As some of you know, I purchase a classical music disc for them each month and send it their way.  I will sometimes have a theme to the purchases for a few months in a row and I would like to net them some music the was written between the years of 1485-1603.  The mother and father love the Tudors show and I thought it would be fun to send them some music from that time period.  So, what are your recs for specific discs?  Thanks!

This is also a great choice:



(Also available as individual discs)

QuoteOne of the most iconic music manuscripts, the Eton Choirbook is of unique importance, both in its own right as a cultural artefact and as a source of English choral polyphony composed during the late fifteenth and early sixteenth centuries. Had it perished, along with so many other (less fortunate) pre-Reformation music manuscripts, our knowledge of a critical moment in the history of English music would have been immensely diminished. Ever since it was first copied for use in the college chapel in the early 1500s, the choirbook has been continuously in the possession of Eton College. Several composers whose works were included in it had close associations with the college, not least Robert Wylkynson, who served as the college's informator choristarum from 1500. Other composers represented include Banastre, Browne, Cornyshe, Davy, Fawkyner, Fayrfax, Hygons, Lambe and Turges. Most of its original contents (67 out of a total of 93 pieces) were votive antiphons, or devotional motets of prayer and praise, sung each evening to the Virgin Mary, the college's dedicatee.

http://www.youtube.com/v/TWc1v5_Gy5g

http://www.youtube.com/v/BO5uvlacDA4

SonicMan46

Bill - well, this is just a beginning!  Went through my 'general collections' and found a couple of CDs that might be considered - not sure about the availability of these offerings?

 

snyprrr

David Munrow?

Isn't it true that the particular group is of great importance, because every group makes such different choices (like: with or without drum). I always say the More the Merrier with this kind of music. That Savall clip is spot on perfect.

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Antoine Marchand

Quote from: snyprrr on January 02, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
Favorite Song: John Blow The Self Banished. I sing it on guitar and the girls melt.

I think girls would also love this one:

http://www.youtube.com/v/7KwHErv7Ryk

John Bennet - Venus' birds whose mournful tunes

From:



Crystal Tears (John Dowland and his Contemporaries) [CD+DVD]

snyprrr

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 02, 2011, 06:51:51 PM
I think girls would also love this one:

http://www.youtube.com/v/7KwHErv7Ryk

John Bennet - Venus' birds whose mournful tunes

From:



Crystal Tears (John Dowland and his Contemporaries) [CD+DVD]

I tell ya, the Hit Parade of a few hundred years ago so beats out todays 'songs'.

jowcol

You may wish to get an album with a version of My Lady Carey's Dompe on it-- its one of my favorite pieces from that period, and one of the earliest keyboard works recorded.  It's basically a two chord vamp in in the base with some improvisation in the treble that has some pretty long phrases.

A version for harpsichord here has a good  introduction to the tune and is pretty proficient-- it's a bit fast and flashy for me.
http://www.youtube.com/v/uJvucBDevyw


This version on harp has some good moments.
http://www.youtube.com/v/bGutqs9G0bw&feature=related

A quick search showed about 20  albums that had it, so you should be able to get a version one way or another. 

I must confess I like it best with a  hammered dulcimer.  Nick Blanton's Ways Upon Bells had a nice arrangement (unfortunately, OOP), and my  my favorite versions  were with two hammered dulcimers, where I held down the bass and let a really talented player let fly with the improvisations but we never did record a tight version-- we were having too much fun!

This ensemble has a hammered dulcimer in its version, but  I would have liked a more prominent role:
http://www.youtube.com/v/puNp4qm83CA

Okay-- I'll stop obsessing-- for a little while..
"If it sounds good, it is good."
Duke Ellington

The new erato

Quote from: jowcol on January 03, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
You may wish to get an album with a version of My Lady Carey's Dompe on it
You better be prepared for questions about the lady's Dompe though.

Bogey

Quote from: Opus106 on January 02, 2011, 09:56:32 AM
I love the music from this particular region and period, especially what is called Consort Music. Among the handful of discs I have, most are music for the viols, although one disc from Alia Vox contains the greatest variety and colour.


Well, I was shooting for this one first:



but they were out of stock at Amazon.  If they do not re-stock I will look elsewhere.  However, this lead to this recording I stumbled upon:


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=good+companye&x=0&y=0

Take a listen to the samples.  The range of music seemed to be worth grabbing one to start with and using it as a spring board for some of the other suggestions here and what else I unearth.  Thanks again for the contributions here folks.  I will post as I add music from this specific time period. :)
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

Bogey

Quote from: Opus106 on February 05, 2011, 05:40:05 AM
Nice find, Bill. Thanks, I've put it on my wish-list. :)

I do not want to wait too long on the the one you rec. though.  Seems that there was another installment and it went OOP.



http://www.amazon.com/Teares-Muses-Consort-Music-II/dp/B00004VWXU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1296917320&sr=1-2
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Opus106

Quote from: Bogey on February 05, 2011, 05:49:37 AM
I do not want to wait too long on the the one you rec. though.  Seems that there was another installment and it went OOP.



http://www.amazon.com/Teares-Muses-Consort-Music-II/dp/B00004VWXU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1296917320&sr=1-2

I don't think titles in Alia Vox have gone OOP, just unavailable at Amazon.com. Right now, there is a discount on the label at MDT. :)
Regards,
Navneeth

Opus106

Quote from: masolino on February 05, 2011, 06:03:55 AM
A good bargain on the consort music front handled by the real pro's:

[asin]B001BSH0YO[/asin]


Bought it last year. :)
Regards,
Navneeth